All hail Devastator!
Cutest gamer ever!
I did, it had a picture but the front panel was off.
What does the front look like with the reservoir and front panel on?
If you want it to run cooler, you have to purify the loop with the waters of Lake Minnetonka.
Lol you must be new. I myself am only here for the expensive watercooled builds.
I was hoping you'd do a loop since it sounded like a cool project.
I'm thinking of doing a custom loop in the future, is the maintenance really that troublesome?
Blower/reference cards vent hot air out the back. Otherwise if he used cards with an open heatsink cooler, the top card will run hot as its sucking in the hot exhaust from the bottom card.
Seeing his previous builds he'll likely try watercooling this in the future. Makes sense getting FE cards as they're cheaper and theres a wider range of waterblocks available for them.
EDIT: If you really want to read how GPU cooling fits certain PC builds, check the link below
Nice build, it looks really neat even with of all those AIO tubes. I'm aiming to have my system to look something like that when I'm done upgrading it.
I think your cooling issues have a lot to do with the restricted air intakes at the front. If it were up to me, I'd get a case like the Meshify C or Enthoo Pro M and mount a 280mm AIO CPU cooler as front intakes, then have the GPU radiators as exhaust with one on top and the other on the rear.
btw how quiet is it with 12 fans, 2 pumps and fans in push/pull config?
Is a custom loop is the only way to have both silence and high performance?
Thats some serious eye candy.
Do you think the temps are better with the top fans set as intakes or is it purely like that for the aesthetics?
Such a nice build, deserves a feature.
Shame that GTR badge is a cheap chinese knock off.
I think you need to edit your completed build and add reviews there.
Its just disappointing a case that looked like it had good airflow coupled with a sleek/minimalist design actually has poor airflow.
I was somewhat interested in this case but your review has put me off Cooler Master products for good. Think I'll stick with Phanteks, Corsair and Fractal Design.
You should review the case and give it a rating, that way it would be more visible when people are researching parts for their build.
Patriot CL - 16
Crucial CL - 15
The build itself is clean, thats whats important.
If you think thats messy you should see my cables lol
This things insane, is it tax deductible?
You might want to look into getting a match set of RAM. Mixing RAM is not recommended, you probably need to tweak settings in BIOS to get it working properly.
cable management is overrated.
He wrote "that is having" so its not done yet.
yikes, it comes with a pricetag to match.
I should've been more specific, a model of the 917k would do, something like this:
Interestingly, the 917k from the Le Mans movie just went for a whopping 14 mil!
I did see the video but I will watch it again since its over been a month.
Are there dust filters on the bottom intake fans? Doesn't look like it in the picture but I highly recommend getting some.
So many legendary cars used the Gulf Racing livery and you chose the best one. The attention to detail and quality is amazing......I knew you were a cool guy from your YT vids but now I like you even more lol
Could we have a pic of the 917k alongside the case?
You stole my idea! I was planning on getting a silver Evolv case and naming it the Silver Arrow to go with the Sauber-Mercedes C9 model on my desk.
You can measure the temperature inside the case if unsure. I only have an AIO so I can't comment on full waterloops. Personally I would only use a cheap one, it would also accumulate a lot of dust if its next to the intake fans.
I've seen a few videos with 1080 Ti SLI setups doing 4k, but it seems everyone uses an i7-7700k. Heres some games tested with an i7-6700k , nothing gets close to 144hz.
If you do happen to put the livery on it and match it with a diecast car, you gotta post pics of it here. I've read that diecast cars should be kept at room temperature so it might no be a good idea to put one inside the case.
I do agree the monitor will be overkill, I'm not sure what games can run at 4k 144h. Might need to wait a few years for GPU processing power to catch up.
You don't need anything more than a quad core if all you do is play games. If you want 6 cores and above just go with Ryzen, unless you really want 40 lanes.
Its cool seeing builds inspired by racing cars, although i think this is the first I've seen. Any plans for a Martini Racing paintjob for the case? How about getting a Porsche 917K, 935 or 936 diecast model in Martini Racing livery to match the build? You could probably get a cheap 1:43 scale model like this and have it inside the case :)
Also, theres no such thing as overkill. You'll find out when you try to push games at 144hz, especially at 4k.
Good article although they didn't mentioned which SLI bridge they used, I'll assume its a HB bridge. I suppose I'll wait and see what new hardware comes out coupled with upgrading my monitor.
GTA V runs well enough with SLI, no complaints, just FPS drops are noticeable when I drive around.
CPU and RAM at stock. MSI 980ti is being used as the top card. Using SLI bridge that came with the mobo.
MSI afterburner settings:
- Core clock +135mhz
- Memory clock +330mhz
Resolution at 1080p, 144 hz. Eveything maxed except motion blur. FXAA on, MSAA x8, TXAA off. Frame scaling mode turned off.
I've seen about 3.5-13% improvement in GTA V's benchmark with x16/x8. I OC my cards past the factory overclock so that doesn't bother me.
The PCIE_5 slot shares bandwith with the first slot, so you're running at x8/x8 instead of x16/x8. I'm trying to find a set up which will allow me to run my cards at x16/x8 without thermal throttling my top card and was wondering if a Sea Hawk card would help get around the bad PCIe config of this mobo. Whats the purpose of the fan on the Sea Hawk? To cool VRMs?
Yep room temp, I probably should've typed that instead. Those temps are pretty good, I reckon my open air cooler type card would reach about 70 under load and higher in SLI. I'm really tempted to buy one and try it out.
Great build but I have to ask, why is the second GPU in the PCIE_5 slot? Does it not fit in the PCIe slot directly beneath the first card?
What are the ambient temps if you can recall lol
Also does ambient temp make a big difference on these GPUs compared to regular air cooled ones?
I should mention i'm new to building PCs, so please don't take me as an expert. I built my system late July last year and it was the first time I handled any PC component other than the hard drive. If you want to know which PCIe 3.0 slot supports x16 you can always check the manuals on MSI's website.
The Xpower gaming titanium PCIe configuration is PCI_E1 x16/ PCIE_4 x16 so there is good spacing between cards. Look at this build for example https://au.pcpartpicker.com/b/vFFdnQ
Two things about that board though
1. Its EATX so it check if it can fit into your case.
2. Be advised there has been reviews about dodgy memory support (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joyA7zrQVYQ) but MSi has released BIOS updates since so your RAM should be ok.
As for the x99 workstation, I can't find a lot of info/reviews on this board but spacing would look something like this (its in x16/x16 config) https://asset.msi.com/global/picture/image/feature/mb/RWD_Img/workstation/X99Workstation/workstationQuadroSLI.png
It shouldn't matter to you since theres not much difference between 130fps and 140 fps. Personally i'm leaning towards getting a set up like having the Gigabyte GTX 1080 Xtreme Gaming Water cooling as the top GPU with an air cooled GTX 1080 on the bottom. Its probably the best mix of price, performance and convenience when changing to single cards for non SLI supported games.
I tried it and also decided to put it back in the PCI-E5 slot. The temps were too much, the top GPU reachs 60 degrees just browsing the net and the fans keep scraping the bottom GPU when they spin.
I used GTA V and Unigen Heaven to benchmark.
In Heaven, the top GPU began to thermal throttle when it quickly hit 91 degrees and performance suffered. The bottom GPU reached 74 degrees in the PCI-E3 slot. I got only 136 FPS compared to 154 FPS when at x8/x8 and getting decent airflow. The temps at x8/x8 were 80 degrees for both cards.
GTA V saw improvements of 3.5%-13% in FPS. However that benchmark doesn't apply a full load on the GPUs all the time and so wasn't affected that much by the temps.
Messing around with an open bench set up I had, I think a GPU needs atleast 5 cm of clearance from any obstruction, such as PSU shrouds to run at optimal temps. In my Enthoo Pro, the bottom GPU in the PCI-E5 slot sits about 3.5cm above the PSU (I have removed the PSU shroud and installed fans on the bottom of the case) and still reaches 80 degrees.
If you want, you can return the MSI mobo and get an Asus one like the ROG Strix X99 or Rampage V Edition 10. They have better PCI-E configurations for air cooling. The setup below will provide you with x16/x16
Beyond that, the only other options I know are getting AIO liquid cooled GPUs or doing your own custom loop.
I've read somewhere between 10-15%. It does very depending on the game. Theres a link below which gives some insight into performance gains of x16/x16 pver x8/x8.
Heres an updated video with two 1080s in SLI
Thanks, it would be interesting to see if the increased temperature is worth the performance increases. I'm also going to see if x16/x8 is worth the temp increase in my build but my cards are already hitting 83-84 degrees max with an overclock running GTA 5. It is summer here so ambient temp is not ideal.
It would be the motherboard thats causing it. I've just noticed the very last line of page 17 in the manual state that: PCI-E1 shares the bandwith the PCI-E5. Thats why they're both at x8.
You'll need to put the second GPU in the PCI-E3 slot but likely your GPUs would be touching like in this picture
If you try this set up please let me know the GPU temps. Can you still use that SLI bridge if you switch PCI-E slots?
No such thing as overkill.
Could you tell me how many PCI-E lanes are being assigned to both cards? Judging from the picture, it appears the LED is indicating that both cards are running at x8.
I have an i7-6800K with the same mobo and SLI set up and its running at x8/x8. The manual recommends putting the second GPU in the PCI-E3 slot but I avoided this since the top GPU would be sitting directly on the second GPU. Just wondering if a 40 lane CPU would allow a x16/x16 setup with the second GPU in the PCI-E5 slot.
Nice push/pull setup with the radiator.
I wish I had something like this when I was 10.
Interesting, didn't know that. Anyways nice build +1
No SLI bridge?
I'm looking to build in a 202 and knowing Corsair and their stiff cables I tried to find some flexible cables. CableMod can make custom ones for the Corsair SF series but be warned they aren't cheap.
I decided against getting the custom set but if you want I suggest googling for a promo code or waiting for a promotion. There are already custom made sets for the Axi, Hxi series that are cheaper but I don't know how compatible they are with the SF series PSUs.
As for the standard Corsair cables I've heard they're easier to bend when warm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srhauj83Ad0 @ 23:04