It was funny though...
Permanent vacation in Mexico with a $1 million dollar tax free check in my name.
If you did find a pc build tutorial with component price. Chances are they will high $$ higher end parts that you may/may not want afford or other wise. They are generally the same amd/intel as far as building. Try the pcpp build criteria list pick/choose parts you want/ need and research what may / may not be good for you're particular needs and then youtube any of the multiple build guides- pcpp has a few as well. Good luck
Make an essay "Benefits of gaming compared to watching tv"
If youre capable of saving money and cant order online, why not just go to a bestbuy or micro center or something and piece meal it together? Less freedom living with parents. I moved out when I was 17.
Glad you got it straightened out. I would suggest tagging that usb and keep it somewhere accessable for future problems. Ex. In case you need the boot files off it for somereason you cant forsee.
This happened to me as well in the past. The windows programs didnt seem to work to get all my space back. In times I need to mess with my drives I plug a usb with a linux distro on it, press f11 repeatedly till I get a boot menu- I select the usb with the linux distro- let it load-go to a program called "gparted' -select the drive I want to wipe- "delete" ALL partitions- make 1 new partion and format said drive to NTFS 64bit -this works on m.2, hdd, sata, external i never did a usb this way- you should be able to wipe it clean under windows- delete all partions then create 1 new partition and format it. If the amount still isnt shown, like a hidden partition, try the linux method above. You will need some form of second usb so you can load the distro. This has happened to me quite a bit. I'm sure it has happened to alot of people as well. Theres programs that will load iso's onto a usb thatt will make it bootable. Some alre capable of making many different iso's on 1 usb bootable- winsetupfromusb 1-8 is what i use to make a usb with many different bootable iso's
Yw, good luck.
Ntfs 64bit for windows-32 bit for uefi in case you might want to take screens or save certain settings within it.
Linux booted "live" from a different usb. I use gparted- but there are programs within it that will wipe the drive and give all of the space back. I cant remember which one atm. But this method will give you youre space back- chances are it partitioned it and is hiding the lost space, idk- but possible.
In the guid, yes you want to format the drive to ntfs 64bit , you will see options to do so on a win10 install, no need to partition, to keep it simple. Good luck
In certain criteria, such as this. I use a "multi boot" usb. it has recovery, linux os's, win7 os, win10 os. Using this usb i'll load a linux "live" use gparted and wipe a drive clean, this method will allow you to format youre drive to "ntfs" 64bit- many different kinds of format-but this is what you want for a standard win10 install- as well make sure you only have youre main drive in the machine as a win10 install will put mbr's on secondary drives causing problems in the future. "WinsetupfromUSB-1-8.exe" is what i use to make a multiboot usb stick- usb's are cheap now and something like this laying around can prevent headaches in future troubleshooting. I'm able to load a linux "live" clean my drive/drives and load a win10 install from the same usb with this method, you can update youre bios/uefi with this method as well. I have, on occasion, was unable to see a drive in the uefi/bios but able to see it with the "f11" method- and able to go from there.-this is why i suggested the f11 method. I believe youre hardware to be fine- possible wonky microcode from msi going from a 2nd to 3rd gen series cpu on a designed 2nd gen chipset.
He's a gentle caring cat. Found koojo to be fitting. :)
After you hit power, hit f11 multiple times till you get a boot menu, then select the usb with win10 on it. If the machine doesnt recognize boot up files it wont boot- a mistake in making the usb either by you or microsoft. , yes they can mess up as well. If you need to make a new boot usb , double check if its in ntfs format. If you by chance downloaded a 32bit version, that could be a problem as well. Clearing the cmos in youre b450 board might not recognize youre 3600 chip, if it goes back to a previous version, idk- but it is a possibility.
There is no ddr4 on z87, might not be what he says it is. -unless you had a typo......
Sure, why not. 550w is fine.
LOL. It is...
reseat- not reset. Any debug lights on? The rgb lighting up may have hid them
Power? Maybe you accidentally hit the switch on the psu? The power cord to the psu not all the way in? Plugged into an extension cord/powerstrip and not the wall? Something loose inside knocking the power connector loose? No video? Try a different cable , if applicable. re-seat the gpu. Power to the monitor?
USB ports are fine. You may have already answered youre own question. Its worth a try.
Research.... pcpp is a great place to start. Look at completed builds with the parts you have in mind and look at the timeframe of those builds with said parts. Maybe browse the troublshooting threads and see what works and what doesnt as well. I would be more concerned about function and performance secondary. ie- a $550 board doesnt work because the ram is junk- the computer keeps browning out because the system is stressing a junky psu too much. Just some ideas.
This is true....
I think you answered you're own question. Met alot of people in my time doing jobs that they didnt go to college for. One eye opener to me a while ago was talking to a guy mopping floors at a Hardy's that had just graduated from college. Tech would have been the way to go, its not going anywhere.
If it's in youre bios as treloar suggested, booting a linux distro live via usb should see it. If it does I would suggest getting all files necessary off it at that point, its unreliable and condider it luck.
They're not ruined. Somekind of driver conflict somewhere, maybe overlapping usb drivers or something. Hard to say if it says "activate windows" thats time limited anyways. linux is free, much more user friendly and install than it used to be, and surely you would be able to use them all.
Try plugging an external usb in any one of them , before you start it, and see if it pops up in the bios. - That should say whethet its a hardware or software issue.
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Cpu overheating? How long are you able to stay in the bios? Indefinate? 30 seconds?
I didnt know such a thing existed untill I saw this thread. I'm pretty sure it would work fine, but theres no way I could trust such a thing in an overclocking enviroment.
Yw. Glad you got it figured out. As I did. You'll know what not to do in future builds.
I remember now, I saw no use for it. I had control of the uefi and after a fresh install of win-whatever i would go straight to admin/services....
I would assume, after wiping the drive/ drives, with only a main drive installed that the efi would initially install, with a fresh win10, and then update itself as needed. But installed drivers , I think, would bypass that. Never looked into the efi partiton, surely i have seen it, just didnt pay mind to it, if it's what I'm thinking- I got out of it and went on my way-didnt see a use for it- starting everything from scratch. I currently use Linux Mint "live" on a usb to manage disks when the need arises, to me, this method assures me things are clean and not over written- installed on top of each other- etc...
As a possibility that multiple mbr's are causing problems. When you deleted the partitions its possible it bypassed the mbr partition. Just a guess.
Were both nvme drives installed on the board when you installed win10? Win 10 will put an mbr on a second drive if its installed in a machine when you install win10, this could be youre problem. In this case, I would wipe all drives using gparted or something off a linux usb live boot- unplug all other drives save the main drive and install win10 on that one- make sure everything is ok then plug the other drives in.
Heres another one to add to youre fix-it archive. I like this one.
Have you tried the ram and/ gpu from the 2700x build? Have you tried only one ram module each at a time in each slot? Have you tried the 2700x in the gigabyte board. The 2600x and b450 should not need a bios update to work. If the 2700x and ram, from a known working build , doesnt work I would assume a faulty board some how.
NP. Good luck..
What I used to do long before I made an account with pcpp. I would go to the search and find a cpu I was looking at, add it to a list, and look at the mother boards, I would look at price, "reviews" ,options and "builds", then I would look at the time frame these builds had/have and that would point me to compatible ram that works/does not work with said board.I would narrow it down to a few and research the hell out of those boards. A motherboard is almost pure preference. Example:I love MSI while others wont touch them with a ten foot pole. With ram as well, in a few cases. The "build guides" are just that , guides, some people that build these "guides" have issues, I feel the same about "suggested" parts lists as well. Doing youre own research and finding what suits you the best, to me, is the best way to go. Many don't research, find the most compatble parts put cheap crappy psu's in their build and have problems from said parts, suggested or otherwise.
Not quite sure what it is youre looking for, but I made this awhile ago as a pure budget build.
Are you getting anything on screen when you turn it back on?-even a second or two....
My mistake, I seen chipset and thought bios version. Thanks....
I started messing with them in the late 90's. One thing for sure, since then, is the parts have exponentially increased in power and roughly~ the same price. With that said. With the same kind of power youre current setup has you can knock that budget way down. You can use many of the same parts and focus that savings to a better gpu, as an example. AMD? Intel? Does it matter? The build guides are a pretty good start, to fine tune what it is youre looking for. I do find the ram and on occasion the psu's questionable, though.
When you turn it back on, are you getting anything? Lights- fans- anything on screen. I turn sleep mode off on every build I did/ will do because I can't rely on it to do what it's supposed to do. Build list? Does the cpu support video?
This is youre best bet.
Still a good database. Seems like jonnyguru as well, even though, it's still a good database for learning about psu's.
Both what Zerk2012 and kschendel said are true. A cheap psu will not draw rated power and will cause unforseen problems. The 8pin eps is more than enough needed for everyday use.
These guys do real world PSU stress tests'
This guy knows what he's talking about. 1 8pin eps connector can pull upwards of 384w~ or something, you will never reach that amount with a standard setup.
I have more control using a 5 speed and prefer it over an auto. Learning to ride a motorcycle will improve youre awareness of you're surroundings and improve youre driving skills that much better-can't say for everyone, but this happened to me when I first started riding a motorcycle. It's not hard. Over thinking it and trying to hard will make it more difficult than what it is. Good luck....