Aah, oops. Was mostly going off memory of the apu’s. Swore 2400g was 6 core, aah well. Learn and move on
Hmm thats quite rare for that power level, nice then!
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Most B450 micro ATX boards suck, sadly the MSI Mortar is one of the few good ones. This ITX board is quite good even though bit more pricey
Switched you to a rx 5709xt. Cheaper than most 2070 Supers and competes in between a 2070 and 2070 super on the scales
No matter what you do a 550w psu wont be enough. These cards no matter what you pick need two PCI power connectors, most 550w psu’s do not have that. This Corsair rxm unit is the same one I use and it hasnt gone wrong
You cant go wrong with the Taichi line
Ooh, sorry forget the fan, was for another recommendation
Wait for a deal on a 9900k if you want to go that path, the kf is a scam in my opinion. It gives nothing new but “promised” 5 ghz out of the box. A specification a 9900k already has (with just a few minutes of BIOS tweaking)
Thats the fans I use and I love them. Not flashy, etc, but work extremely well for my cooling needs. Only con is the cables are short.
Did you use the right mobo standoffs for an ITX board?
Just get a normal 9900k. The kf is a ripoff. Vast majority of 9900k’s can hit 5ghz very easily.
If you want to see an example AMD build in use, check out my completed build.
I am also in the process of upgrading to a rx 5700xt which preforms competitively with a RTX 2070 / 2070S.
And actually there is an error in that reply. Third gen Ryzen is not tied to X570. You can get a Ryzen 3000 cpu to work on any B350/450, X370/470 board as long as the BIOS is sufficiently updated so it can recognize third gen. For example the 3600 has the same power requirements, 65 Watt TDP as the 1600. So, for me as an example, I can just simply update my motherboard’s BIOS and slot in the new processor and have zero issues. The only thing you miss out of not using X570 is PCIe 4.0 which means nothing for many, many, many years. Not even the RTX titan or quadro cards can saturate a PCIe 3.0 16 lane slot yet.
And on the intel side, Z370 is still a viable option if you can find a good deal.
I understand that, what I was trying to convey is if you time it right you have a good chance of grabbing an aib card. They are manufacturing on a weekly basis, but as soon as aib models hit store stocks they are sold quite quickly.
G stands for an APU unit, they have integrated graphics
X simply means its a better binned chip that should boost slightly easier
Non X are still overclockable, all Ryzen processors are unlocked.
To farther expand,
Aka the higher the number the greater the cores and threads, and newer versions have better clocks than previous versions.
Also Sapphire is supposed to release the Nitro+ cards on the 16th. Should be a decent supply then.
Ray tracing wont be a real, mainstream feature for many, many years. Look at whats already supported.
Minecraft, Quake, full rayteaced. Those are ancient titles by today’s standards though
Shadow OTR, BV5, SWBFII(modern) all use raytracjng but its not even done well. All three titles do it differently and each is only limited to light reflections, which is only a portion of ray tracing.
Also the other RTX feature, DLSS, is virtually dead before it even got any attraction. Virtually no games support it and Nvidia themselves seem to not like it.
Also if your not buying a 2080 or above, the RT cores in the 2060 and 2070 series cards simply are not that good.
Im not saying its bad, but that tech is a long way off of maturity, and great chance that the current turing design may not even be compatible with future raytracing. Nobody can be for certain though.
Tldr, dont count out cards without raytracing just for that reason.
All I can say to the Mugen’s preformance is that is capable of keeping my Ryzen 5 160 cool under extreme stress tests. For example over a year ago I stressed my cpu using PRIME 95 for a full 24 hour period. The hottest the CPU package reached was 72c. Temps recorded with HW Monitor and NZXT Cam. The CPU was operating at 4.1ghz on a 1.3v overclock.
And what made it even more impressive was I could barely hear the fans spinning when I inspected the machine.
I dont have the Funa 2, but one of its cousins, the Scythe Mugen 5 rev B. If the Fuma is of the same quality than it will be one of the better coolers out there.
70c under load is quite good. Keep in mind TJmax ( the max before thermal throttling) is usually 100c for a gpu in general. So you are doing well.
Play around with fan curves, different fan configurations, etc but your in a good place at least.
What I meant is that a laptop cannot handle the extra heat generated from an overclocked part. Most laptops keep the components cool under load but with zero head room.
The psu fan is an intake and should always be face down as long as the case allows it ( in this case it does). This segregates the pau from the rest of the case thermals wise.
I would remove the two top fans. The flow of air should be front to back and since hot air rises, it wants to escape from the top. Thats why there is always a rear fan mount on any case.
I would do one of two things
The dynamics of how air travels through a case is just as important.
This is a teardown video for the 1080ti. It is from Gamers Nexus, one of the best PC youtube channels out there.
Edit, didnt see laptop. Nvm.
Yes never oc a laptop gpu. It will overheat easy.
Install MSI Afterburner if you have not and use its fan curve feature to change when fans increase in rpm.
Also look through your system bios. There should be fan curves for system and cpu fans. Adjust accordingly to your needs.
Speaking of case fans, I dont know your setup (forgive me if I missed it) but the best setup is fans pulling air in from the front and exhausting out the back.
The Focus G can support 6 fans total
With that in mind I would recommend populating the front slots with two good quality 140mm fans, 1 120mm in the rear for exhaust, and consider another 120mm on the bottom blowing air directly onto your gpu.
Your monitor uses freesynch adaptive technology. That feature is what allows you to get over 60 fps usually. You got a few hurdles.
Why not consider a 5700xt? The board partner models report preformance in between the 2070 and 2070s at around $400 - $420 USD.
Im a fan of Fractal Design. Id recommend looking into one of their many wonderful offerings
I personally use a Define S in an airflow configuration and love it. Check my completed build for many pictures of the case.
Get a kit of G skill Flare X 3200 Cl14, or other 3200 CL14 kit.
The extra 4 pin is actually useless. The 8 pin eps that you should be using can handle up to 380 watts of power. You will need a 3900x or higher to even get close, and you would have to have it manually overclocked to the max as well.
The 4 pin is only needed for extreme overclocking. Also the vrm on that board will melt long before you reach the maximums the 8 pin can handle.
I just picked up this 5700xt for $409 on Newegg. Its out of stock now but far cheaper than a 2060 super, 2070, or 2070 super, and preforms in the middle of a 2070 and 2070 super. And the pulse isnt even the best version Sapphire makes.
Found this on Newegg. The price is the attractive bit, has all I want, but is TN. On that note, my current monitor is also TN, so at least used to it.
Well, the upgrade will move it to 480, but thanks for the peace of mind :)
Got mine for about $50. They could have charged $80 and it would be still worth it. Amazes me how the Mugen 5 competes with the big dogs like Dark Rock 4, NH D15, etc
Yes, my 1600 runs perfectly, was more out of curiosity than anything else.
Mine runs at 4.1ghz @ 1.3v
From my experience, Powercolor and Sapphire do the best job on AIB Radeon cards. And both of their 5700xt cards are very good.
Dont get the evoke from MSI though. Its loud in comparison.
I personally use the Scythe Mugen 5 rev B on my Ryzen 1600. Its one of the most impressive coolers I have ever seen.
Its gigabyte. Sadly thats your answer. Gigabyte products are cheaper for a reason. They are the lowest end for the most part.
Those cables should have more than one sata input per cable. Even if not, you should be fine. The aio shouldnt use any of them.
I would buy a vega 64 or radeon VII over 1080ti or any 20x card.
Your best bet would be a x470, should have the best compatability.
Not many mitx x470 options though in the US anyway.
Which ryzen 3x are you considering? Specificlly core count. That detail could impact which mobo’s to target because o lf VRM design.
Quick google search popped up that. Not the most glamorous unit but it seems compatible.
I have a similar setup, ryzen 5 1600 on a MSI B350 Tomahawk and a rx 580.
I use Gskill Flare X 3200 cas14 memory. It is very overkill but at the time it was discounted close to Trident Z and other options so it wasnt a bad choice.
I would recommend 2666 or 3000 at least. Yes its more than needed but it gives you some headroom for the future.
Scythe Mugen 5 rev B. Thats what I would recommend. I use it on a MSI b350 Tomahawk + ryzen 5 1600 and its crazy how well it works!
MSI B450 Tomahawk
MSI B450 Carbon Pro
My top two picks in this catagory.
Also consider pricing and upgradability.
The 7600k is not cost effective and the motherboards for it are going to get harder and harder to find in new or good condition.
The 2600 has many, many years of life on it before its considered obsolete. Plus, the motherboards for them are cheap. You could also eventually get a 3000 series Ryzen CPU and use it
On that current motherboard.
The importance is simply your desired target. For me I wanted over 60 fps, but budget said no to 144hz, so I settled on a middle ground, 75.
4k, your options are very limited. Basiclly, 1080ti, 2080, 2080ti, and maybe Radeon 7 are the best. Also yes you do need 4k compatible monitors that increases the price. You would also want adaptive synch ( freesynch or g-synch), high referesh rate to get above 60 fps, etc. so yes the price increases quite quickly.
At 1080p, you have alot more options and can consider mid-tier to semi-high end offerings. These can but are not limited to include: most of the Nvidia 10 series, 2060, radeon 580, and vega 56/64. Same
Thing though, you would need to get the appropriate monitor, adaptive synch tech, and a higher refresh rate unit.
For example, my system:
For me this pairing works baeutifully with what I wanted and my budget. That sortof setup is kinda higher side mid-tier.
Fractal Design focus G, my suggestion. Its cheap, comes with good fans, and easy to build in. Plus looks good IMO
Whats your budget? What resolution do you want to play on?
Neither, get a 2600.
“Live bear a MicroCenter” now here is the problem. There is NO locations within my State or any states near!
Really wish they would expand instead of having what? A dozen locations?