Could you elaborate? I'm looking at buying them since Corsair LL's cost almost 2x as much.
I honestly don't think the 1700x is worth the extra price over the 1700 given that you're only getting .1 ghz, maybe .2 extra from overclocking. If you already have it and want to put it into this case, then there's no reason not to, but if you're buying stuff, I'd just get the 1700, overclock it, and call it a day.
The stock fan on the C7 already runs pretty loud and even with the 140mm Noctua fan mod I did with it, it's still kind of loud- and that's with only 65w of CPU to cool. I can't imagine 95w.
The Wraith Spire LED cooler usually sells for about $20-25 shipped on /r/hardwareswap, so you could add that towards your savings if you choose the 1700 over the 1700x.
Sounds about right for a blower fan, although tbh a blower is quieter/better than a dual fan in this case (have directed airflow instead of an enclosed space with no really directed ventilation).
What GPU do you have? If it's anything more powerful than an RX 570 or has a reference cooler, that's why.
The problem for me is more how loud the C7's fan is. As it is now with the C7 heatsink and the Noctua NF-P14S Redux, it stays very quiet and only gets up to 65c under load.
He already sticks his hands inside my machine whenever the side panel is off.
Which isn't very often anymore now that he does it, but y'know.
Thanks! They look even more stunning in person!
I was kind of skeptical at first but they seem to do the job well enough. One of them is modded onto the stock heat sink and it keeps the CPU at around 75-78c under full synthetic load with Prime 95. My Ryzen Master application is reporting an average of 76.5c give or take a few in either direction, and that's with a mild OC to 3.2GHz @ 1.0625 volts.
If you're interested in trying them out, you can grab the PWM twin pack at Amazon for about $18.50. The pack includes both fans, a full PWM splitter cable, and 16 vibration dampers similar to Noctua's.
I realized I had completely forgotten to upload my pics and update the build. They're up now, and while it's not the most spectacular way of mounting a fan, it works without any problems.
At some point, I may ask my cousin to fire up his 3D printer and make a mounting bracket, but until then, it works well enough.
It hasn't let us down yet. As this build has become my wife's, it hasn't really gotten pushed hard. I did try Rocket League on it and it got 144 frames stable with a occasional dips into the 110's.
There's only two. I used a splitter for the two fans on the GPU side.
I bought 2800mhz ram, but the motherboard doesn't have an XMP profile for it (2666/2933. I haven't had any issues with it running at 266mhz though.
Thanks! The mod is nothing spectacular, it's literally just duct-taped in.
My schedule this week and next week is kind of crazy, so it will be a while before I can open the case up and snap photos of everything.
As of when I purchased a month ago, yes.
I actually did a dummy move and started mining with this build, which has been running 24/7 since, so I haven't gotten a chance yet. I might shut it down and clean it later today, in the which case I will snap a photo for you. It's really not 'modded' as much as it's got the NF P14-s gorilla taped to the inside of the case just over the heatsink.
I haven't tried to clock up to 2800mhz like mine are rated for- I just set XMP for 2666 and called it good. I'm waiting for the next AGESA bios update to hit so that I can check out whether the board will even post @2800mhz.
I'd expect it to work just fine. I don't think the 1700 has a different memory controller from the 1400 or 1500x and MSI has been on point with their motherboards/UEFI support lately.
No issues to report thus far.
Replied without looking at which build this was on. Sorry.
Yes, ram runs at the rated 2666 mhz.
I haven't checked any real-world load temps, but my CPU temperature equalized at 75c after about 20 minutes of Prime95.
The GPU compartment is almost completely isolated from the rest of the case, so it really comes down to what card you put in- as always.
No problems thus far. I'm only one customer, however- particularly one who isn't running an OC.
Ram currently runs at 2666, although with the recently released AGESA update, I expect Biostar will release an update for the motherboard to allow for 2800mhz clock speeds.
Both. There's just enough clearance to sandwich it between the cooler and the side/top panel of the case. With the ghetto mod in place, I get idle temps of about 45c now that I've dialed the fan profile in a bit. Load temps are 65ish now, but at a much more bearable noise level/pitch.
After watching the video, the predominant problem is that user was an idiot and tried to install the motherboard into the case before he installed the CPU and cooler into the motherboard. If you put the RAM, CPU and cooler onto the board (which you should always do before installing into the case anyway, because it's easier to troubleshoot problems with any of those parts before they go into the case) then you don't have to access the back plate at all with any tools.
No discernable bend in the case. The AM4 bracket that came from Cryorig was a little difficult to install but once it went in, there weren't any issues other than the C7 being loud as hell.
I wouldn't have had a complete rig to take photos of if there was a compatibility issue.
There are some quirks that I've had to get used to. It's the only AM4 ITX board available at the moment, so it's something others and I will have to bear until Asrock or Gigabyte release theirs. Even then, I probably won't switch because there haven't been any real deal-breaker issues going on.
First world problems, right?
It doesn't look like there's an AM4 mounting kit for the Big Shuriken yet. I would use any cooler other than the C7 if mounting options were available at this point. I actually had a Noctua NH-L9a that I was going to install until I read that Noctua was still in the process of figuring out a working mounting bracket for AM4.
If you want to be sure, you can read the qualified vendor list here for ram support. Keep in mind that you won't be able to clock higher than 2400mhz if you plan on using an APU with this board instead of a Ryzen CPU.
Between needing a replacement immediately (no A320 boards available now) and also wanting to be able to overclock and expand with an m.2 ssd in the future, it wasn't going to cut it.
Can imagine that'd be a lot of builds to look at. I'm really looking forward to my next one.
The FX 8320 was a much needed leap in performance, for me. It surprised me that it easily handled running my games, recording the gameplay, handing two VOiP services, a livefed stat tracker. Planning on adding in streaming soon, once I can get a better internet connection.
Thanks for looking!
Originally, this machine was built with a 64gb SSD. Actually, I had one for my laptop and one for my desktop, then we got married and my laptop died. I had the SSD laying around and was planning on tossing it into a Raid0 array with the other matching SSD I had, but that idea didn't come to fruition. Finally decided to split the two 64gb SSD's between my desktop and hers, as her 120 barely has enough space for her apps and the OS. This way she can still game on a decently quick drive and have the document storage she needs for her photos and business stuff. Thanks for looking!