Yeah... I intended to buy the 2700x for its XFR, but now that you said the case doesn't have clearance for this cooler then I think I'll get a 2700 or simply use my 120mm AIO.
Would you say the R7 2700 would be a better choice based on its tdp.
I just ordered the same mobo and case, but I can't decide which cpu to go with.
I'm ask that because I don't see many reasons to get a 2700 and overclock. I just think it would produce more heat than a 2700X with XFR.
Please... tell me your thoughts.
PS: What's your Wrath Prism doing there? Is it just for the show or are you using it as the radiator fan?
If you are already using better graphics presets a better vga won't do much in your case.
Well, I don't play for a living. I play because I enjoy games. I don't care about extremely high fps. I want my games as beautiful and fluid as they can be. Frametimes and high fps are just meh and only matters on multiplayer games.
Maybe, just maybe you should learn what entry level means.
I'd go for up to 1080p@100Hz. There are a few games you'd be able to get more than 100fps but you are asking about ideal monitor, not the very best.
If you don't want to waste money and still play you can get a your build as this one plug it in your TV while you don't have a monitor, also you can have Win10 evaluation/trial or any name it is and use it, only losing some customization and having a discrete watermark. There are Youtube videos showing you the differences between paid and evaluation Win10.
I know using a monitor is a lot better, but a man needs his machine to play. LOL.
There is a saying in my country: "The one who hasn't a dog hunts with a cat".
My brother and I have almost the same build the main difference is the VGA. I have a GTX 1060 6GB and he owns a GTX 1050ti, where I play almost every game on ultra he is limited to medium and in some cases high preset.
And probably will go even higher.
People usually ignore the motherboard's QVL and buy memory only looking at numbers. Only to get home and face some kind of incompatibility. I never had such problems picking memory from the QVL.
As for memory I really suggest you pick them from the motherboard's QVL.
wow, which motherboard you got?
If you really intend to stream I agree with ElectricSheepsDream when he told you to go with an R7. But if you learn a bit about overclocking you could do it with an R5 too, I did that with my 1600.
You won't be able to play 1080p@144Hz, maybe on games such as CS: GO and Overwatch, but I don't play those games.
I have an R5 1600X and a GTX 1060 6GB and the only game I can reach 120 fps is DotA 2. Honestly I don't really care about those high frame rates. I suggest you forget that if you intend to make your build cheaper.
Next year I'll be upgrading my VGA and monitor, but to a higher resolution as I think it's a better improvement than just higher fps.
You are correct, btw 2666 is overclock too. But you can ignore those standards and look for some memory from your motherboard's QVL.
In my case I have a DDR4 2400MHz overclocked to 2933 MHz, I just had to loosen the timings.
I'm willing to build a home server with this CPU too, I wanted to pair it with a C236 motherboard, but they are expensive and I didn't want to spend that amount of money on the motherboard alone.
I've bought the G4600 and a B250 motherboard. I'll probably stick a small M.2 ssd as a boot disk and 4 (max sata supported) WD Red 3TB HDDs. And I'm gonna leave it as my media server and any other services I might need in the future, I was used to have VoIP, file sharing, SSH servers running on my Banana Pi M1, but that SoC really lacks on media server capabilities.
Nice to know. I'm willing to get an AMD card and pair it with a Freesync 2,5K monitor. But I'm not sure how much it will cost in my country.
Which monitor will you pair with your Vega 56?
I'm willing to pair a 1440p freesync monitor + Vega 56 and I want to know about performance.
G-Sync is just too expensive and I don't like nVidia as a company.
How is your gaming experience with this monitor + RX480 combo? Can you reach 60fps?
Can you game @ 60fps with this monitor + RX580?
1- "[...]want to keep inside clean[...]": If clean is what worries you then you really should avoid negative air pressure. By having more exhausting air flow you will force air to come inside through every hole in the case, avoiding the front filter. You always want to have neutral or positive air pressure (when there's more air wanting to enter than leaving the case, that way you force air to enter only through intake fans.
2- "[...] I really wanted to put radiator at front of case [...]": I've seen tests with radiator in front (intake) and on top (exhaust). And the total temperature was better with the radiator in front. There are videos about that on youtube. Plus... placing your radiator as intake will definitely give you positive air pressure, forcing air intake through your air filters.
So, my advice would be:
1- radiator in the top front position;
2- the intake fan on the botton front position (as it probably gives more air pressure and fresh air) so it can feed the VGA's fans better than radiator's would;
3- changing the top exhaust fan to the back position, so the air flows through the entire motherboard.
PS2 reply: There are sleeve cables for the ATX 24 pin and, if you change the radiator's position you will expose the 8 pin motherboard connector too. I have an NZXT S340 Black/White and the same VGA you have, as it looks gorgeous with those 3 white sleeved cables and clean combs.
Anyway, I'm just trying to help, the final choise is yours.
Is you AIO pushing or pulling air? Because if it's pushing you are probably in a negative air pressure scenario, which is not good.
Anyway, you can easily fix that by changing that top fan and placing it in the front. ;)
PS 1: Really nice build.
PS 2: Sleeve cables would do a great job aesthetically.
PS 3: I think the HDMI in the front panel is related to VR setups.
This RAM kit can oc pretty high, I've seen people oc'ing it up to 3000+ MHz. O.o.
And that R3 can keep up with Intel i5, also even on GTX 1060 the bottleneck is on the GPU, not on the R3.
Pretty solid build!
I had my R5 1600 paired with an RX 480 8GB and sold the RX because of the prices. With the money I bought a new GTX 1060 6GB and still got a change. Both were custom cards.
RX 480 8GB, GTX 1060 6GB.
Answering your question: My Ryzen performs better with the 1060 than with the 480. So I think it's a misinformation.
I have an R5 1600 @ 3.9GHz on a Gigabyte X370 mobo, and it runs awesome.
I got the X370 + AIO liquid cooling for the looks.
But imagine something: R5 1600 @ 3.9GHz ( I think you can achieve that on stock cooler) on a cheaper B350 motherboard. Get that extra money and put it on the graphics card then tell me where is the Intel's better scenario.
I'm glad I chose AMD.
Now I'm waiting for RX Vega's benchs to retire my GTX 1060.
BTW. If you intend to game and maybe game + stream/recording, stick to the R5. R7 are more like a productivity cpu, choose it and your price x performance goes down.
Good luck. ;)
If you manually overclock they perform pretty much the same.
Plus, the 1700X doesn't come with a cooler, at least it didn't the last time I checked.
I don't stream my gameplay, but I record my gameplay.
I have an R5 1600 @3.9GHz + X370 + GTX 1060 + 16GB 2400MHz RAM.
It just doesn't bother if it's recording or not. Great cpu imho.
I really don't recommend R7 for a gaming rig, save that money and put it where it matters, gpu.
I'd only recommend R7 for productivity machines.
Please, check benchmarks and you won't regret choosing the 1600.
Check your BIOS for the primary video device.
Personally I see Ryzen is a better choice for this price point. You get the same gaming performance + better productivity performance when comparing to Intel builds. With AMD you will be able to overclock if you want.
One thing to note. Avoid R7 for gaming, it's not necessary. Get B350 motherboard and an R5 1600 cpu (yes, the non-X version), it comes with its own cooler, saving you some money and still able to overclock if you know how to do it, or if you want to learn about it. Put the extra money on your vga and you're good to go. Way better than a console.
BTW. Get an RX 580 instead of the RX 480, they cost almost the same.
You can use any micro-ATX case or bigger. There are tons of case options and pointing one would be tough, especially considering your personal taste, just go and look for one that suits your interest. Just remember to make sure it has enough space for the VGA.
Exactly! After all it's supposed to be an enthusiast build. IMO, i5-7600K may be called high end, but never an enthusiast CPU.
I guess he can spend his money anyway he wants. Calling him dumbass for that is just lame. Don't be jealous. Earn more money and do whatever you want.
Actually my RX480 is my first bought part of an upgrade, I'm waiting for the i5-7600K to compare prices and performance. And I won't be using a case anymore, I plan to build a wall-mouted pc.
Sadly it's mounted on a 2009 pc (i7-930), so I didn't use its true power yet.
I guess he just meant that.
I don't know OP's intention, but I'd go the same way. I'm just tired of bad expeciences with nVidia. I'm having a great time with my XFX RX480 GTR, no issues so far. And I'm gonna try a new policy changing my vga every year or two, starting with mid range ones.