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Comment reply on Forum Topic "Opinion / advice please"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Swap out that PSU isn’t good. In my profile, there’s a link to a google document that has a list of good PSUs

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade help pleaseeee"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

I mean, if you can get a 1070 along with the rest of the parts, that would be even better. 1070 would also be a definitive GPU upgrade.

Another thing to note: if you want to reuse your AIO cooler, you’ll likely have to order an AM4 bracket. Corsair might send one for free. Not sure.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade help pleaseeee"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

That build may be 100 over, but if you can stretch to that much, it would be a nice bump in performance.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade help pleaseeee"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

I would personally upgrade almost everything. Keep the HDD case and GPU and replace everything else

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade help pleaseeee"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor £147.60 @ Aria PC
Motherboard ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard £81.60 @ Ebuyer
Memory Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory £124.99 @ Aria PC
Storage Kingston - A400 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive £19.19 @ Aria PC
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £35.76 @ Aria PC
Video Card MSI - Radeon R9 290X 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card -
Case BitFenix - Comrade ATX Mid Tower Case £32.75 @ Aria PC
Power Supply Corsair - RMx (2018) 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply £75.45 @ Ebuyer
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit £86.39 @ Aria PC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total £603.73
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-15 21:42 BST+0100

A 600 pound upgrade would be good here.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Upgrade help pleaseeee"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Windows 7 isn't supported on new hardware

Comment reply on LostElement's Completed Build: Orion (Remastered)

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

It hasn't been delivered yet. He lives an hour away and I am not comfortable driving such a long distance until I get some additional repairs on my vehicle.

The old PC is this:

AMD Athlon X4 630 12gb DDR3 OEM case OEM PSU (That would make the tenth PSU I own) RX 550

Comment reply on Forum Topic "650w or 750w?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

You'd be fine with a 550w unit.

Get an EVGA G3, a Bitfenix Whisper M, or a Corsair RMx.

Comment reply on Glenfennen03's Completed Build: The Nautilus

  • 14 months ago
  • 3 points

Nice

Comment reply on Forum Topic "AMD FX PC in 2018?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor $160.98 @ Newegg
Motherboard MSI - B450-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $79.99 @ B&H
Memory Team - Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $70.98 @ Newegg
Storage Drevo - X1 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $36.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $43.94 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor - Radeon R9 280X 3GB TurboDuo Video Card -
Case NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $61.00 @ Amazon
Power Supply EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $59.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $513.87
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-14 00:06 EDT-0400

The Ryzen 2600 is better in every possible way. Faster single core speeds, MUCH more efficient, and better multicore speeds. Besides, the Frozr isn't a great cooler and wouldn't effectively cool that FX chip.

Added 8gb of RAM, more can always be added later. RAM is much faster and newer. Ryzen's Infinity Fabric reaps the benefits of this.

Case is largely personal choice, but I chose this.

You don't need a 850 watt PSU, even with that crap FX processor. 550 watts is fine. In this case, I added a 550 watt power supply by EVGA. It's a solid enough model, its only issue is the OPP being set high, but this is common in semi passive units.

Comment reply on LostElement's Completed Build: Orion (Remastered)

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

He didn't want an SSD. He doesn't care for it.

The macho was a requirement as well as the fans. Intel cooler is a huge no no :)

He concluded that he can always simply get another kit of RAM later on.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I think my PSU isn't working properly"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

On some other wattage units, the OPP is set above the 125% mark.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Best cooler for i7-8700k"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

The Scythe FUMA holds that title, but requires a very tight mounting in order to achieve that.

I would get the Thermalright Macho Rev.b , as it’s on par with the NH-D15

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Could anyone rate this pls"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

CX (2017) grey label. That's the good one.

The bad one is a green label.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Could anyone rate this pls"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

I mean, with budget builds you’re going to use all but one cable, so it doesn’t matter:P

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Could anyone rate this pls"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Yeah, both the CX and the CXM have it. Except the CX has a better topology that’s better overall whilst the CXM uses an cheap one that’s worse.

I’ve spoken to someone who is studying electrical engineering, and he recommends the CX over the CXM. I’ve also been doing a lot of reading on PSUs lately :P

CXM is good, but the CX is better.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Any more RGB?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

If any power went in it, then there’s a risk. Even with the risk factor reduced, there’s still the other issues I mentioned.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Could anyone rate this pls"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I would actually suggest a Corsair CX (2017) due to it having a better topology over the CXM. (Double-forward(CXM) vs Half-Bridge LLC Resonate(CX))

Both works, but I would still go for the CX.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Could anyone rate this pls"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

The system power 8 is not that great. I would go for the Corsair CX (2017) instead.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Music Production Build"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Actually, I would stick with the CX

The CXM uses a cheap double-forward topology. It’s not very efficient and overall is not that great.

The CX (2017) uses a half-bridge LLC topology, which is much better overall.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Any more RGB?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

I do not advise this, power supplies can be dangerous, if you're not careful, deadly. The capacitors store electricity within them, which contains a lot of amps It only takes 0.2 amps to kill an adult human. Capacitors will store about this much if not more.

It will also void the warranty of your power supply, which I do not advise for such a high end unit with a long warranty.

All the PSUs I've taken apart have two pin fan headers, which may not be able to supply enough power to something like a high end Corsair RGB fan. You would need to do some creative wiring. You would need to get a fan hub powered by SATA, then connect the fan to the hub. You would then mount the fan into the PSU (Carefully) but you'd likely have to do some cutting to get the fan's wire to route out of the power supply. If it's something like a Corsair LL, you'll need the Commander Pro (Or the Lighting Node Pro, I am not 100% on that)

If you were to take this on, I would advise you drain the capacitors first. Press the power button on your PC while the PSU is switch to off. Press it several times for good measure. Then, disconnect the plug from the unit and let the PSU sit for a few hours. If there's any residual charge, it'll be slowly drained out. For added precaution, wear some rubber gloves. Get some insulation.

It's a risky and complicated process to get all of this to work. In the end, it's not worth the danger and the voiding of the warranty.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Gaming PC for Under $1000"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I would personally go for the CX450 (2017). The CXM uses double-forward topology, which is to say, it’s not great. The CX uses the Half-Bridge LLC Resonate topology, which most mid ranged PSUs have.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First time builder. pc for 1080p gaming"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Only change I would suggest is get a 550w PSU and change the Z board for a b360 board.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Cheap Music Production Build ($700)"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I would get the CX (2017) power supply as it uses a better topology over the Corsair CXM.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "first build, first pc, seem good?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

If this is a gaming build, then I would actually go for the locked I5-8400 and get a Cryorig M9i. The 8400 is better for gaming.

The Corsair CXM uses a double-forward topology, which is to say, it's not all that great. A Corsair CX uses the a half-bridge LLC topology, which is quite a bit better. But since we're in the high budget anyway, I would get a G3, Corsair RMx, or a Bitfenix Whisper M. Whichever is cheaper.

Those Corsair LL120s RGB controls won't work properly without the Commander Pro. (Or, it may be to Lighting Node Pro. Not 100% sure on that)

Comment reply on Forum Topic "First PC build - Opinions?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

The EVGA's rails are fine. In fact, the performance of the unit is quite good. Which he's referring to is the high OPP and OTP triggering point that is found in the G3 lineup, but it's not unheard of in semi-passive units. Other than that, the unit is fine.

If you still wish to switch out the PSU, then consider a BitFenix Whisper M or Corsair RMx

I have a list of power supplies here

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Refurbishing 2 Old Computers"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Corsair CX450 (2017) will do fine

Comment reply on Forum Topic "How often do PSUs go on good sales?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

There isn’t many good 600w units that EVGA has. 650w sure.

Why a 600w unit anyway? Most PCs don’t draw more than 300-350 watts, making a 550w unit preferable.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Is 460W Enough"

  • 14 months ago
  • 4 points

I wouldn't use that ancient PSU. It would likely either die, kill your system, set on fire, or all of above.

I would get a Corsair CX450M instead.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Same quality power supply for a better price?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, G2 is a no go. It also fails the hold up time test.

Best to stick with the Whisper M or RMx. Whatever is cheaper.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Same quality power supply for a better price?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Yeah, protections aside, the performance is god tier, but I only recommend practically flawless PSUs. Which is why it saddens me that the G3’s OPP and/or OTP is set too high, I cannot recommend it because of that. The G2 also fails hold up time, which sucks.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Same quality power supply for a better price?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Oof, I’ll double check some reviews. If this is the case, then the G2 isn’t going in my recommended list.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "I think this is my final build list but idk"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Why a locked board with an unlocked processor?

Cryorig M9i isn’t suitable for 8600k. Get something beefier like Thermalright Macho or Scythe Mugen 5

Windforce cards aren’t great. They have a small heatsink compared to others which lead to higher thermals

Why a full tower case? Those are massive and usually used for custom water looped builds

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Same quality power supply for a better price?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Source? Didn’t read anything like that in the reviews.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Not sure weather to upgrade or buy new PC"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

That EVGA PSU is mediocre. There are better units out there, Modern hardware needs tighter specs if you want maximum reliability, lifespan and stability. I will not suggest a low end unit for a modern build. Not a good idea.

There's way more to a power supply than "voltage levels". There's load regulation, ripple inrush current, protections and their trigger points, hold up times, transient responsive times, build quality, the main switchers, the MOSFETs, Capacitors, etc etc etc.

Everything has to be perfect in a power supply for it to be perfectly safe for itself and the hardware its powering. The EVGA 600B is... eh. Okay. Not great, not bad. Not something I'd use for mid-high end builds. It's something I would use if I wanted to power a Pentium or a Celeron or a locked I3.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Not sure weather to upgrade or buy new PC"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Wattage doesn’t mean quality. Neither does Efficiency. It’s very complicated stuff and I don’t have the time to go into detail at the moment.

The EVGA 600w has mediocre performance and mediocre quality, not something I would use for a modern build. The PSU I suggested is currently the best 50$ PSU around. The last thing you want to cheap out on is the PSU. My profile has more info (though i need to rework the PSU list) there’s also the better 60$ seasonic version.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Same quality power supply for a better price?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 0 points

I wouldn't get the G3 due to iffy protections. I highly recommend these PSUs:

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/qYTrxr,3zNypg,CZvZxr/

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My Power Supply (Sentey bxp600) Caught Fire."

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I was just quoting vagabond, and I trust his judgement on this stuff. :P

I know there's a lot more, but it's just the very basics.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Not sure weather to upgrade or buy new PC"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

If you were to build a new PC, you could keep the Hard drive and graphics card and possibly the case.. I wouldn't reuse a low end power supply.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor $94.99 @ Newegg
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $69.89 @ OutletPC
Memory GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg
Case Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair - CX (2017) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $39.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $369.85
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-06 02:49 EDT-0400

For less than 400$ (USD), you can get a good upgrade to your system.

  • Ryzen 1200 will see a significant performance increase over the FX 8300. Its single core speeds alone do this.
  • Basic motherboard. It has VRM heatsinks, so limited overclocking is possible, further increasing performance.
  • The case may not be necessary, but it could breath new life in an old system. Make it look new and refreshing.
  • Non modular power supply. It's good enough, though. For 10$ more, you can get a semi modular version.

For about 500$ you can get an even better upgrade

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor $165.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.99 @ Newegg Business
Memory GeIL - EVO SPEAR 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $124.99 @ Newegg
Storage Crucial - BX500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $28.79 @ Adorama
Case Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99 @ B&H
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $60.13 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $519.88
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-06 02:54 EDT-0400
  • This is the latest generation of Ryzen. Six cores and twelve threads over the Ryzen 3's four cores four threads.
  • B450 board. Allows for support right out of the box and still allows overclocking.
  • Added a 120gb SSD to install windows into, which will drastically reduce load times
  • Higher quality power supply. Semi-Modular. Seasonic knows how to make them.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "i5-8400 stock cooler/heatsink"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

The stock cooler is horseshit, but it gets the job done, barely.

Even this will work quite a bit better than the stock cooler. It would reduce temps by roughly 10c and do so more quietly.

But I would recommend this more. It sees around 15-20c decrease over the stock solution and does so much more quietly than either the Arctic Alpine 11 plus and the stock intel cooler.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "My Power Supply (Sentey bxp600) Caught Fire."

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I always iterate this. Please, do some proper research on these units! Look at sites such as Jonnyguru, Tomshardware, and any site that takes apart their units, inspects the internals, and at least tests load regulation, ripple, and transient response times!

To quote our Vagabond139:

"What you should look for in a PSU: Good performance i.e ripple ideally ~30mv or less and less than ~1.5% voltage regulation on all rails. All jap caps on the primary side (all jap caps are ideal though) since even budget units like the Corsair CXM and CX have this. Ideally some form of passive mode although its just a nice to have thing. DC-DC since this is 2018 not 2010 and a group regulated PSU shouldn't even be a thing anymore. It should have OTP, OPP OVP, OCP, and SCP protections that work. And modular in some form although that is just a nice to have. That is just the basics."

Here is a bunch of guides to a PSU. (Thanks, Vagabond139 )

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-power-supplies/ (easy)

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/why-99-percent-of-power-supply-reviews-are-wrong/ (easy)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-we-test-psu,4042.html#p1 (easy to medium)

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/blog/2013/march/why-does-a-better-power-supply-mean-a-better-computer-experience (easy)

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2053-power-supply-voltage-ripple-and-relevance (easy)

http://www.overclock.net/t/761202/single-rail-vs-multi-rail-explained (easy)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supplies-101,4193.html (hard)

https://www.techpowerup.com/articles//overclocking/psu/160/1 (hard)

http://www.xppower.ro/dwnd/Essential_Guide_to_Power_Supplies_full_pdf.pdf (very very hard).

I have also put together a list--currently incomplete-- of good power supplies.

  • BitFenix Whisper M <--- Recommended for most builds; Alternative to RMx
  • Bitfenix Formula
  • Corsair CX (non M) (2017 Revision)
  • Corsair CXM (Grey label(2015 Revision)) <---Recommended for budget builds.
  • Corsair TXM (2017 Revision)
  • Corsair RM
  • Corsair RMi
  • Corsair RMx <--- Recommended for most builds
  • Corsair HX
  • Corsair HXi <--- Best PSU available
  • Corsair AX
  • Corsair AXi <--- Best PSU available
  • Corsair SF (SFX Form Factor)
  • EVGA P2
  • EVGA T2
  • SeaSonic Focus
  • SeaSonic Focus Plus - (Not recommended for 1080ti, 970, Vega 56 or Vega 64.)
  • SeaSonic Prime
  • SeaSonic Prime Ultra <--- Best PSU Available
  • Antec High Current Pro
  • Antec High Current Platinum
  • Cooler Master V-Series (Not VSM)
  • Cooler Master Masterwatt Maker 1200W MIJ (Stupid price, but overall solid build quality with acceptable performance)
  • Couger GF-X
  • Couger GX-S
  • Be Quiet! Straight Power 11
  • Be Quiet! Pure Power 10 CM
  • Be Quiet! Dark Power 11
  • Andyson Platinum R
  • XFX XTR
  • XFX TS

Comment reply on Forum Topic "need help on my budget light streaming par list"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Ditch the EVGA BT. That’s not a good price for it. It’s only worth 20$.

Get the Corsair CX450M instead

Comment reply on VaxtinTheWolf's Completed Build: [2] A Mother's PC

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I wasn’t talking about wattage. I was talking about the PSU itself. It’s simply okay. Nothing exceptional about it. I think it lacks OTP, but which the low power draw, I doubt it’ll be an issue.

Cheers!

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Would this bottleneck anything?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't recommend the G3 due to misconfigured protections, specifically OTP. Get the Corsair RMx or the Bitfenix Whisper M. I don't recommend the SeaSonic focus because there's a flaw in its design that causes issues when paired with GPUs like the 1080ti, Vega, and the ASUS 970 Strix

Comment reply on VaxtinTheWolf's Completed Build: [2] A Mother's PC

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

CPU wise, the R5 is more powerful. Vega 11 isn't as powerful, however. Unless your mother frequently plays games (If she does, go mom!) then this setup is just fine.

Except the PSU but whatever! I personally only go for perfect PSUs :P

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Would this bottleneck anything?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

"That all depends on the game and graphical settings. There is not a blanket answer to this. Bottlenecking all depends on the game and graphical settings and any CPU can bottleneck any GPU under the right circumstances. Bottlenecking is not a absolute thing thing like it is made out to be."

Don't worry about it. You'll be fine.

The Earthwatts Pro has some pretty high ripple. Up to 45mV on the 12V rail. Even the Corsair CXM doesn't get that high, and it's a budget option. But it's technically within ATX spec, but compared to the competition at MSRP, it's not great. But for 45$, it's a damn good deal considering everything else on the unit is great.

I would actually get a 1080ti. RTX isn't even out and it's currently very underwhelming. Either wait for RTX to come out and hope that its new drivers give it a worthwhile performance boost, or just get a 1080ti and be happy.

Since you're picking a high end card either way, I would get a 1440p 144Hz monitor, or a 4k monitor. 1080ti for 1080p is massive overkill and overall a waste when a 1070 and 1070ti can achieve those performance numbers.

8gb is underwhelming. You may encounter RAM issues in modern titles. It's better to get 16gb of RAM

From what I've been reading, MSI boards aren't great. At least, if you plan to overclock. Consider looking into ASUS boards.

Comment reply on VaxtinTheWolf's Completed Build: [2] A Mother's PC

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Very very nice. I plan on building my mother a PC, using my old I5-7500.

The build is solid, only things I would personally change is the PSU and use the new Ryzen 5 APU.

+1 for cleanliness.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Double check? Any improvements?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

It's not overstating. I am quoting.

  • https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/evga-450-b3-psu,5160-11.html

    "In the end, it may not matter because the 450 B3 has other, more serious problems. It looks like Super Flower made a huge mistake in its design, which poses a major safety risk. We noticed that the over-power protection triggering point is set way too high. Even under normal operating temperatures, one of the primary FETs in our store-bought sample, along with some other components, blew up. Either SF should set its OPP point much lower or use components able to handle higher amperage. We were also disturbed by the fact that, after the primary side shorted out, the PSU's fuse didn't blow. Every time we applied power, we saw sparks. Obviously, that's a fire hazard."

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Roast my AMD Build"

  • 14 months ago
  • 1 point

Not too bad.

Ditch the 212 and get something newer, like Cryorig H7.

You can get a 500gb SSD for elss

Get an open air card. It's quieter and has better thermals.

Comment reply on Forum Topic "Double check? Any improvements?"

  • 14 months ago
  • 2 points

Here's the better option.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor $165.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler $36.40 @ OutletPC
Motherboard MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $124.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $119.99 @ Newegg
Storage Inland - 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $62.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card $216.99 @ Amazon
Case Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case $39.99 @ B&H
Power Supply Corsair - CXM (2015) 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply $49.99 @ Amazon
Operating System Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit $98.99 @ B&H
Monitor BenQ - GW2270 21.5" 1920x1080 60Hz Monitor $89.00 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1005.32
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-10-04 08:52 EDT-0400
  • Newer and faster CPU
  • Better cooler
  • B450 board
  • Cheaper SSD
  • Cheaper GPU, no performance loss
  • Better case
  • Much better PSU
  • Removed the terrible fan
  • High quality monitor for less

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