I generally avoid Reddit, mainly because a) I tend to be caught in the crossfire of a flamewar that comes out of nowhere, and b) they won't shut up about Pentium G3258's. No, just no, don't even, no.
You might have had better experiences than me, but I'm not trying that place again.
I think I'll go for that WD Sandisk SSD, since she doesn't need super-fast write times for the games she plays most. All she would really benefit from is fast Windows operations, and she'd already be fine with a 7200RPM drive. I think I'll get her a 2TB just to be on the safe side, as I thought 1TB was more than enough for myself and I filled it up in only three months.
If it's possible, could you find a way to fit this into a smaller budget, like $800? It's still a bit pricey so far, and the sooner I can get her this rig, the better. Again, thanks for all the help. This doesn't concern you whatsoever, so it's very nice that you're willing to help out like this.
How the hell did you do that? The price has barely gone up, and yet she's got an R9 380 4GB and Skylake. Hats off to you.
However, I think I might raise the price by $15 to get a Hitachi Deskstar 2TB or WD Blue 1TB. What do you think about that?
It's not that, it's probably HairWorks. You need to go in the ini and turn down hairworks tesselation, Sapphire Technologies made a video about it a while back.
Thanks. I've saved your partlist separately with a shoutout for helping me out here. I'm sure she'll love it, though I'll probably cringe a bit when the first game she opens up is LoL :\
After seeing the 6600k and being a bit disappointed with the results, I really stopped following Skylake. I knew it was the new Intel socket, but I wasn't aware they were making more budget-friendly parts yet... well, by Intel standards at least :\ Anyway, I'll totally check out that 6500 since it means a slightly more expandable system. Now, I just have to hope Intel doesn't drop it by the end of this year. I think we all know they're not above that.
My hope is that I can give her a Fury down the line, and the R7 is more or less a placeholder. Of course, I don't mind sparing an extra few bucks for her in the meantime.
Thanks for the help, it's good to be back on this site. I'm glad there's people like you around here, helping lost novices like myself just for fun.
The point was to get away from the Intel stock cooler, since I've heard it's not great for gamers and gets a little loud. I don't need some heavy-duty liquid cooler for her, just something that keeps it quiet. Of course, I'm not exactly an expert on this stuff, just a new entry in the PC building market who's still working on his own rig piece by piece.
I've considered getting her a WD Blue, though I'm pretty sure the WD Green or Red 2TB will be within reach by the time I have the money to set this up. Thanks for the feedback!
You'll probably want to change cases soon, it doesn't look like ThermalTake's budget case is treating your components well. The SPEC-03 and Define R4 are great options for a budget builder, the Phanteks Enthoo Pro is nice if you're feeling fancy.
Yeah, but as a further upgrade it's worth mentioning.
To be honest, I think the best move from here on would be to switch to an LGA 1150/1151 or AM3+. The 860k isn't that much better, this rig is basically the pinnacle of FM2 and that GTX 970 has plenty of room to expand its power with a better processor.
Do you think I could buy this off you? I'm a bit broke though, all I've got are two legs and a kidney.
"Sub $1000 build... hmm, let's see if he crossed into the R9 380's... oh... oh my... DAYUM!"
Seriously, your deal-hunting skills are admirable. You crammed a Skylake and R9 390 into a high-end budget build. TEACH ME YOUR WAYS!
Not too shabby, though getting a new APU is kind of pointless since you have a graphics card. Why not get the Athlon 860k (AMD A10 7850k, no integrated graphics, $75) instead?
Also, make sure to check Newegg often. I've lost count of how many 128GB SSD's have gone on a Shell Shocker deal.
No problem. I love my R9 280, don't get me wrong, but it absolutely scared the **** out of me when I tried to place it in and learned that it was too long for the motherboard's layout. I ended up cutting off the service handle to the fourth RAM slot just so I could put in my card :\
Quickly pointing this out, the 270 is actually an R9 card, not an R7.
There's no doubt that an AMD card would have been the better option... if all we considered was money. Unless it's an R9 Nano or Sapphire R9 285, you probably shouldn't be using it in an ITX build. The two-fan cards take up way too much space to be producing that much heat.
Absolutely f**king beautiful, and nobody charged you five times for editing it.
I'd say it would get 40 FPS on ma-- oh, wait, this was a joke. ****.
I didn't mean spending extra money. I meant getting a Xeon E3 for $250 instead and having an H97 MoBo. With Skylake around the corner, though, guess I spoke too soon :\
Of course, I misread the processor. I didn't realize it said 8350, which I somehow confused with 8320-E. That didn't really make sense with a $200 MoBo. You can probably get better performance out of that 390x with an i7, but an FX 8350 will do just fine.
i5 doesn't have hyper-threading. In the same way that i3 is dual-core with four threads, Xeon E3 both beats out 4690k by a great deal and has eight threads.
Also, R9 390x is a GTX 980 competitor. Go for it if you'd like to spend an extra $100 (still $100 cheaper than GTX 980 and basically the same performance), but R9 390 beats out the GTX 970 by a margin and has 8GB of VRAM. One of the lures with PC is the constant temptation to go all-out, be careful!
I meant a single E3, though... not the dual-socket LGA board, but a simple H97 mobo with a Xeon E3 so that you could get i7-level performance without the insane price.
Nice cards, but I think you may have wanted to go for a Xeon E3 instead. I love AMD, don't get me wrong, but their FX is a bit outdated and you'll probably hit a pretty severe bottleneck.
Xeon E3 is essentially a $250 i7, without overclocking or Intel HD.
I accidentally went $150 over. Get the R9 380 instead, if you want to save money. It's just above GTX 960 in performance. Another way to save money would be to get standard 1080p monitors, instead of 1ms response time monitors. I thought to myself "why not, you're focusing on a twitch shooter anyway..." but it can be a problem in a budget build, as the monitors now make up $280 of your budget. Now, onto the build:
I went for the Xeon E3 as your processor, because it's basically an i7 without the overclocking capabilities or Intel HD. It's the price of an i5 4590k, and you'll want a great processor if you want to livestream, so I'm glad I learned about this one. Since overclocking is out of the question, I figured AsRock H97 Anniversary will do fine as your motherboard.
Rest of the build: MSi R9 390 GAMING 8GB (nuff said, GTX970 is dead), 2x4GB of RAM, 2TB of storage, and a Modular 80+ Gold EVGA 650w PSU. You also have the Phanteks Enthoo Pro as your case. I can link you to reviews of some of the parts here, if you're interested. I'm subscribed to several major reviewers on Youtube (and one minor reviewer, who just got his first complimentary review card only days ago), and I've learned my way around PC building since I started studying last year. Feel free to ask questions.
R9 390 beats the GTX 970 with ease. Bottlenecks won't be a problem unless you've got i3/FX 6300 or below.
I went $30 over-budget by accident, but I know you'll love this thing. If you need to, you can drop one of the RAM sticks and pick a second up later.
If you've got an extra $100, go for an MSi R9 390 instead. If not, enjoy what you've got-- an i7 and a 4GB R9 380. You can easily upgrade to an enthusiast (GTX 980ti, R9 390x, Fury X, etc) later, but for now you've got a card that beats the GTX 960 in almost all of Digital Foundry's benchmarks. 4k may be out of reach, but 1080p will be great and even 1440p is enjoyable. One thing's for sure: bottlenecks won't be a problem when you've got the f...fudge...ing Xeon E3 in this thing!
"Dota 2 budget build" and "R9 280/i5 4590" generally don't go together. How did you pull this one off? Just... wow. That's some serious E-bay skill, this is the kind of build that would cost you at least a good $600 normally.
In all seriousness, great build. I don't exactly think the i7 was necessary, but there are very few games out there that this build won't max out entirely at 1080p60. Even then, the games it can't max out are simply because GTX 970 is a mid-range card rather than a full-blown enthusiast card.
What's your chipset? I have that processor myself (nothing impressive), and my Lenovo prebuilt takes DDR3-1066 RAM for its Q45 motherboard.
That's one good-looking... um, processor, yes, very good!
I don't think a better GPU would help that much, since the real "problem" is your processor. (by problem, of course meaning the slight bottleneck).
If you ever wanted to upgrade this thing, though, you could always get an Intel H97 or B85 motherboard with a Xeon E3. It's basically an i7, but way cheaper and not overclockable.
I doubt you'll get ultra in any brand new AAA releases, but that's only because developers are starting to target their highest settings towards Titan X's and i7 5790k's.
Only a few complaints:
1) Make sure you've actually got thermal compound! You can find it towards the bottom of the PCPartPicker list, next to fan controllers and case fans. You'll need some (isopheric? Something like that) alcohol and a microfiber cloth (coffee filters, if you're a cheapass) to get the preapplied (and rather low-quality) stuff off. With that and the Hyper 212 EVO, you'll be able to get a great overclock on that 8320!
2) Only 64GB of SSD space means not much space for games. Of course, if you just wanted this drive for Windows, it's perfect for the job.
Not sure what others will say, but this is much better than before and while there are still several places where you could shave off costs, you'll definitely get your money's worth out of the build.
Here's some ways to keep costs down:
-If you just wanted to play games at 1080p, R9 290 is just overkill. In that case, 280x or 280 would be a better option... that's $100-150 off.
-You can get something a little cheaper for the motherboard, if you'd like. All that matters is that it has all the features you want. You can use the sliders on the sidebar of the motherboard list to find boards with these features, and you can always research which AMD 970 boards are best for overclocking.
R9 290's a great card, but it'll be seriously bottlenecked by an Athlon. If you want an R9 290, you'd be better off getting an FX 8320 for $130 and overclocking it. It'd be a bit more expensive, sure, but you can save money by dropping that completely overkill PSU. Really, 760w and Fully Modular? Hell no! Just go with a 600M, it's semi-modular and provides more than enough power.
Don't go with the A10, please. Those are geared towards your average $400 build where every cent counts, but if you've got $800, it's time to separate those. Get an Athlon 860k (A10 7850k minus the graphics card, for $70) and an R9 270. Also, try to find a cheaper case.
While I'd personally go AMD for the card, the GTX 970's still a 3.5GB VRAM powerhouse.
Stay away from 4k, and that build will be perfect. I have a personal preference of WD Green (2TB instead of 1), but 1TB is still plenty.
You have a pretty damn good build, no questions there. That 212 EVO and 600w PSU will give you plenty of headroom for overclocking that i5, and even without an overclock, your entire build is ready out-of-the-box for top-notch 1080p gaming.
At a $350 budget, you could instead get the Athlon 860k (AMD A10, minus the GPU) and an R7 260x.
Get an Athlon 860k instead of that garbage dual-core, then get an R7 260x instead of that ****** GT 730.
Then, we'll start talking about framerates.
Nah, $20 won't make a big difference when you've got an AMD card that can't disperse its heat. Imagine the issues an R9 280 would run into with heating.
The funny thing is, this is also the pricerange where you expect to see almost entirely used parts, monitor and OS not included. The fact that only your OS, storage, and monitor were under full price is just insane.
Yet, you didn't skimp out on anything but the case and HDD size, and you have a perfectly respectable build that some would have a $500 setup for without the monitor or OS. I'm genuinely impressed.
Oh. In that case, never mind.
If you truly wanted an all-in-one, I personally would have raised the budget by at least $150 and thrown in an R7 260x (or GTX 750ti, if you need the low wattage), along with a better PSU.
A few comments...
R9 280 is EXTREMELY overkill for your resolution. I mean, that thing is capable of 1440p on games like Battlefield 4. To say it's great for 1600x900 is an understatement.
Also, I'm not really sure I'd want to name a computer after a certain rocketship... just saying.
The games you mentioned aren't particularly demanding, though. Skyrim can run on a Core 2 Duo, same with CSGO. As for Minecraft, I have fond memories of playing that on a crappy Dell Inspiron laptop running Windows Vista.
I think the 860k has a lot more appeal, now that Godavari was announced to use the FM2+ socket.
I'll admit I was about to nag you for having $560 for an A10 7850k, then I saw how you fit in an SSD and Windows 8.1.
In that case, great build! The A10's integrated graphics are about on-level with R7 250 from what I've heard, so I'd recommend buying an R9 280 or 270 when it drops in price (since 300's are coming soon).
To be fair, it was a whole 1.2 GHz.
The next upgrade you should consider is an i5 processor. The Pentium isn't great for modern gaming with only two cores.
Aside from the processor, not a bad build! I'll admit I was a little surprised by water-cooling in a budget build, but that'll come in handy once you make the move to a better CPU.
On a side note, how does that GPU perform? I'm looking at it, and wondering how it compares to the single-fan EVGA Superclocked model.
You bought a processor for $45 that doesn't hold up to modern standards and a hard drive with only 320GB for the price of a 2TB HDD from the same brand.
The power supply doesn't hold much in it, and you don't have a graphics card.
Sorry, I really don't think this is a great build. Besides, it's not really $300 if you aren't counting RAM in the build.
Not a bad build. Technically it's only $500 now, with the R7 260x being $80...
It's not all perfect in the US... you can't even get a Hitachi HDD here. That means using Seagate and Wester Digital, unreliable piece of ****.
Have fun with your build, the GTX 970's a very competent card even with the VRAM issue. Just watch whatever local news stations you have, and keep your eye out for the court case against Nvidia for false advertising. If it goes through, Nvidia will have to provide full refunds, meaning an easy upgrade to an ultra-card like the GTX 980 or R9 295x2.
I think an Athlon 860k would be better, since it's a $75 processor and games are beginning to utilize multiple cores. It doesn't provide upgrade options, though.
If you don't mind turning down the graphics down to maybe a mix of high and ultra, go with a 144 Hz monitor and you'll never go back...
With an R9 280x, I'm pretty sure he could do nicely with 144 Hz.