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Forum Topic "Intel i7 or a Ryzen 7 for gaming and streaming."

Chillsabre 2 Builds 3 points 7 hours ago

I would go with neitther of the above. Diablo 3, Stardew Valley and Overwatch arent reall demading titles. If I were you, I would aim for an I5-8600k or a Ryzen 5 2600X instead. Both will have no problem streaming your games and should deliver pretty smooth performance while streaming although the 2600X will have better multitasdking performance thanks to hyperthreading.

Something like this would make sense to me.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor $295.48 @ Amazon Canada
CPU Cooler Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $119.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard $175.99 @ PC-Canada
Memory Team - 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $227.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $93.86 @ shopRBC
Storage Seagate - BarraCuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $53.50 @ Vuugo
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB ACX 3.0 Video Card $599.99 @ Memory Express
Case Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $134.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Newegg Canada
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1821.78
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-20 15:42 EDT-0400

Do note its possible you may not need such a powerful GPU depending on the monitor you plan on using as well.

Forum Topic "8gb or 16gb"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 22 hours ago

Some do if I recall. You will have to check model by model sadly.

Forum Topic "8gb or 16gb"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 22 hours ago

yes. Try and get some RAM that uses Samsung B die modules as they have much less issues with Ryzen than others.

Forum Topic "8gb or 16gb"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

Do note Ryzen has no multiplier to directly support 3000 RAM speed. THis mean you will need to either run them at 2933 or get 3200 RAM which is supported.

Forum Topic "Gpu help"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 3 points 1 day ago

Theyre pretty much on par with each other depending on the models and how far you can OC the 980ti which is a solid overclocking card. That being said, the 980ti consumes much more power than the 1070 and will run hotter as a result.

Forum Topic "How long do you reckon it will be before I can pick up a 4770 for $100"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

In that particular situation, I guess it would make some sense then.

Forum Topic "How long do you reckon it will be before I can pick up a 4770 for $100"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

The 4770 was refreshed under the 4790k as the TIM used in the 4770 had it run kindof of hotter than usual if I recall. I would suggest going for a 4790k although theres likely going to be good deals on a Ryzen 7 1700/1700X/1800X with the refresh of Ryzen's lineup and these CPUs would give you a lot more power than a 4770/4790 could to be honest.

Forum Topic "$3000 Buget Gaming PC"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

For 4K, I use a GTX 1080 in WoW right now but the new upcoming BFA expansion will be pushing the graphics a bit so a 1080ti would be the best pick here. Streaming can benefit from the multicores/threads of the 8700K although 4K gaming in itself isnt that demanding on the CPU.

Here is my suggestion with a more slate black/red as per your answers given already below.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor $346.69 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $138.96 @ Amazon
Motherboard Asus - ROG Strix Z370-H Gaming ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $155.39 @ OutletPC
Memory Team - Dark 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $159.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $199.99 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $59.79 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB DUKE OC Video Card $1004.98 @ Newegg
Case Phanteks - Enthoo Pro M Tempered Glass (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case $99.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Platinum 750W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $116.99 @ B&H
Case Fan Corsair - ML120 Pro 75.0 CFM 120mm Fan $24.64 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $2307.41
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-19 15:43 EDT-0400

Forum Topic "Can I build a PC with an old hard drive?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

The prebuilt PCs normally come with OEM licenses, basically its just a one time use license key PC Building companies use. As soon as you change your motherboard, you end up having to buy a new key. If you get your Windows key from the system information, you should be able to reach Microsoft Windows chat support and have them confirm if this is the case.

Forum Topic "8gb or 16gb"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

16GB is pretty much the standard unless you have budget constraints or are doing non demanding tasks. When I play games on my PC, I usually hover around 6-12GB depending on how much I have running in the background at the same time.

DDR4 scaling usually has a sweetspot of 2400-2666 for most games but some show improvements up to 3200. However, the improvements are very very minimal. You are looking at 1-2 fps with a slight decrease in frametimes for 99.999% of titles.

Forum Topic "yikes that tdp"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

NM stands for nanometer, basically the size measure used in the manufacturing process. the smaller the number the more power you can get from a similarly sized component.

Forum Topic "Corsair RM650x or SeaSonic FOCUS Plus 650 Gold?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 1 day ago

I recently acquired the Seasonic Focus Plus Platinum and these new units from Seasonic are amazing. Their size is really small, giving extra headroom for cable wiring in just about any case. The RMx from Corsair dont really have any issues either but I never used/owned one so I cannot comment.

Forum Topic "Question about Ryzen 5 1400"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 1 day ago

Its fine with your list but for $12 more, youll get to enjoy your build a lot more and keep room for upgrading in the future and/or overclocking the CPU when you end up needing more power down the road.

Forum Topic "Question about Ryzen 5 1400"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 1 day ago

I would recommend getting slightly faster memory as Ryzen scales well with memory speed and the B350 version of your motherboard so you can overclock the CPU for increased performance/longevity/upgradability.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 5 1400 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor $139.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - AB350M Pro4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $74.39 @ OutletPC
Memory ADATA - XPG GAMMIX D10 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2666 Memory $81.99 @ Newegg Business
Video Card EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB SC GAMING ACX 2.0 Video Card $209.89 @ OutletPC
Case DIYPC - Zondda-B ATX Mid Tower Case $35.94 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $542.10
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-19 13:39 EDT-0400

Forum Topic "Question about Ryzen 5 1400"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 1 day ago

Nothing wrong with the Ryzen 5 1400 but as a quad core, it gets overshadowed by Intel's I3-8350K by a good margin while gaming. It does rquire a higher cost though due to the requiment of the Z370 motherboard for the unlocked I3.

The Ryzen 1600 comes with 6 cores and makes a better buy overall. Its not as good for gaming as an Intel 8600K or 8700K but its still a good processor. It was just replaced by the new Ryzen 2600 though so something to keep in mind.

Forum Topic "gaming/streaming motherboard for i7-8700k"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 1 day ago

Things to consider here

  • VRM design
  • Audio capacity & quality
  • Amount & types of USB ports on the back
  • Amount & types of USB ports on the motherboard for parts
  • Need for integrated WiFi
  • Form factor (ITX/mATX/ATX/EATX)

Secondary concerns can be color scheme and budget.

It can be hard to pick a good motherboard but theres plenty of nice choices depending on what your plans are and how seriously you want to try overclocking the 8700K. If you have an idea for some of your parts and special things you might want, I can give you some choices.

Forum Topic "Noctua - NH-L9i"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 1 day ago

These coolers are rated for TDP well above that of the 8700 and could easily keep an OCed 8700K. Both are good performance coolers.

Forum Topic "Noctua - NH-L9i"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

The D15 is very big and expensive. If you want to keep a nice white scheme, you can get an Enermax - ETS-T50 AXE (White) or an Phanteks - PH-TC12DX. Both would have no problems cooling your CPU and would gfit nicely with your scheme.

Forum Topic "1080p 240hz CPU choice"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

Then you should be fine with an 8600k.

Forum Topic "1080p 240hz CPU choice"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 2 days ago

The 240hz will really push both your CPU and GPU. Many non demanding AAA titles will reach 240fps but more demanding titles will certainly require as much raw power you can throw at it. This means both the GPU and the CPU. With a 1070, your FPS will be limited in demanding titles. As such, its likely your CPU could be fine with an 8600K but its possible some title will benefit from an 8700K. However, I feel like the 8700K will likely be limited by your 1070.

If you wanted to seriously keep the FPS as close as possible to that 240fps cap, I would recommend a 1080 or a 1080ti to be honest unless you simply were planning to play titles at medium/high settings and only for less demanding titles.

Forum Topic "Worst fan issue with my 1080 [MISTERY]"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

Try with stock settings up and try the same thing. If it changes nothing, try increasing the temp target to 80C and see if it changes anything.

Forum Topic "Worst fan issue with my 1080 [MISTERY]"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

Have you tried setting a power target and temperature target?

Does it occur in games?

If you play a game and activate an fps cap, does it still do it?

Forum Topic "Worst fan issue with my 1080 [MISTERY]"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

Have you installed Gigabyte's proprietary software?

My guess is that its on the preset for OC for the highest performance with high fan curve.

Try to see if you can set it to default and/or try going rhough MSI Afterburner and leave the card at stock to see if you still have the issue. If it persists, try setting a fixed fan curve like 40%.

Forum Topic "PC getting hot when starting Fortnite"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 2 days ago

Your graphics card tries to lower the RPM of its fans to keep noise down and extend the fans longevity. Although it feels like a light load, your system tries to limit itself when it can to preserve power and reduce noise generation.

You can always download an overclocking software like MSI Afterburner and set your own fan curves and/or set a fixed fan speed if you prefer to go with cooler operation at the cost of noise.

Forum Topic "Gigabyte - GA-990X-Gaming SLI ATX AM3+ Motherboard"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 2 days ago

The FX8350 is an extremely poor value processor. Its undone by the last generation Pentium G4560 which costs half the price and consumes a LOT less power. The motherboards are also pretty cheap. Its even worse when comparing with the latest Pentium Gold G5500 although that one would be a bit more expensive. Going with Ryzen would be a decent pick as well but would likely be more expensive.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Pentium-G4560-vs-AMD-FX-8350/3892vs1489

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor $57.69 @ OutletPC
Motherboard ASRock - B250M-HDV Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $49.99 @ Newegg
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $107.68
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-04-18 15:48 EDT-0400

Any special reason for going with that FX processor?

Aside from this, you shouldnt have any problems with the RX 460.

Forum Topic "Wich video card is better?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 2 days ago

It seems the HD5500 is slightly better than the GT440 but if you are doing rendering or encoding, having any GPU will help alleviate the workload and time required.

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-440-vs-Intel-HD-5500-Mobile-095-GHz/m7783vsm16570

Forum Topic "Maximus X Hero vs Aorus Gaming 7"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 2 days ago

I cant talk for the Gaming 7 but I am using the Maximus X Hero (WiFi AC) in my build currently and its pretty solid. The Audio is pretty good, the VRM is powerful enough to easily OC my 8700K and I had no issues running my 3466 RAM either. The RGB is a bit less flashy than on the Gaming 7 but it comes with easy control in both the BIOS and through the Asus Aura software. The Asus AI suite also has a ton of granular control and information about temperatures fans and all of your parts.

The BIOS is extremely detailled if you want to have as much control as you want over your system and their latest BIOS updates makes it clear about the MCE stating the power would ramp up.

Forum Topic "NZXT Kraken G12 CPU Cooler Compatibility"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 3 days ago

NZXT doesnt list any Deepcool AIO as compatible. You will need to contact NZXT to confirm.

Forum Topic "What should I ask for a used 970"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

Yeah I have seen their work and it does look nice.

Forum Topic "What should I ask for a used 970"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

The Fallout 4 GTX 970 was actually a fully fledged EVGA card.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm_ZNPD-WzE

Forum Topic "What should I ask for a used 970"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

I still drool over the looks the Fallout 4 GTX 970 had for backplate.

Forum Topic "Asus ROG Strix Z370e - question on the overvoltage jumper"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

You shouldnt need to touch the overvoltage. If you are not sure about OCing, Asus offers one of the best automatic overclocking software in the Industry. Just install the Asus AI Suite and run the 5 way optimization for the best result based on your build.

Do note that if this is for gaming or daily usage, a stock 8700K will already be overkill unless you are trying to display on a compatible monitor something like 200+ frames per second. Otherwise, just stock (or with MCE) might be all you will need here since the 8700K is a beastly CPU.

Forum Topic "Does this build make sense (first build)"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

What will the PC be used for?

Forum Topic "What should I ask for a used 970"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

Even with the 3.5GB VRAM the 970 offers, its still pretty much able to max out 99.9999% of games for smooth 60fps ultra gameplay at 1080p.

The 1060 6GB is marginally better but not really worth the bump in price. a 980ti would probably be the best option for performance vs costs. Also, the 980ti is a really good overclocker unlike the more recent Pascal cards.

Here are some numbers to show the discrepancy.

970 vs 1060 6gb

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-6GB/2577vs3639

970 vs 980ti

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-980-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-970/3439vs2577

Forum Topic "What should I ask for a used 970"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

Warochief is about right on the price. I would not recommend a 1060 as its not a big gap in performance. I would either recommend a used 980ti (pretty powerful cards) or a 1070+.

Forum Topic "Why are the AMD A12 APUs So Expensive?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

Probably some 3rd party vendors. These CPUs were just refreshes of the old A CPUs we had on the previous AMD platforms before Ryzen.

Forum Topic "XMP causing instant bluescreens"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

You can try increasing the RAM voltage but Ryzen CPUs tend not to like high voltage. Did you OC your CPU? If you did, you can try relaxing the OC and see if you can push your RAM faster instead. You can also try to relax the timings or latency .

Forum Topic "XMP causing instant bluescreens"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 3 points 4 days ago

Have you updated your motherboard BIOS to its latest iteration? BIOS updates usually comes with memory compatibility and stability patches. Ryzen being more susceptible than Intel often needs these for full compatibility.

If you have the latest version, have you tried manually lowering the peed of the RAM to see if this still occurs?

Forum Topic "NZXT H200i Incompatible with some SFX Power supplies?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 4 days ago

Looking at the compatible PSU, it feels like the H200i was built with support for regular sized PSU. This means you could use somthing like a Corsair CXM 550W or a Seasonic Focus Plus Gold for example. This means the cost of your PSU will drop drastically as SFX power supplies tend to be more expensive.

The H200i does comes with a support bracket for SFX units but theres really no need in this case.

Forum Topic "Good Air Cooler for my build 8700k"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

Prime 95 puts an unrealistic load on the CPU to stress test it. 83C in such conditions is actually pretty decent. If you want a better cooler, my suggestion would the the Enermax T50. Its rated for a 250W TDP and is actually cheaper than your current cooler.

https://in.pcpartpicker.com/product/vdJkcf/enermax-ets-t50-axe-white-623-cfm-cpu-cooler-ets-t50a-wvs

Forum Topic "Why are the AMD A12 APUs So Expensive?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 3 points 4 days ago

These APUs are terrible value, you are better off with a 2200G than those bad CPUs to be honest. Not only does it retail for about $95 USD but it outperforms them too.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-3-2200G-vs-AMD-A12-9800-APU-2016-MBR/m441832vsm283761

If you are looking for value, this is the way to go for integrated graphics right now.

Forum Topic "AMD B450 Motherboard release date?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 4 days ago

Seems to be no release dates for B450. If you want one, you will likely have to wait a bit longer.

Forum Topic "Asus ROG STRIX H270F GAMING + G.Skill Rgb"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

It means the maximum supported speed will be 2400. You can use 3000 speed RAM but it will run at 2400.

Forum Topic "Positioning of liquid CPU cooler"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

sometimes, having a streamlined airflow from front to back isnt a bad idea.

I would start with the radiator at the front and the exhaust at the back first and see what your thermals are. Its likely to be just as effective

Forum Topic "Positioning of liquid CPU cooler"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 4 days ago

Yes, at least if its in the front of the case. The top would not really matter.

Do note its not mandatory it just helps keep noise at a minimum.

Forum Topic "How to overclock RAM?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

XMP profile basically automatically sets the RAM to run at the speed/timing it was made for, provided that your CPU can handle it which isnt a guarantee. If this fails, thats when you have to come in manually and try to relax the timing/speed/voltage to see what you can get.

Also, Ryzen CPUs tend to have less issues with RAM using Samsung modules. This is something you will have to look on the RAM manufacturer's website.

Forum Topic "Is Fortnite playable with really high ping?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 5 days ago

Does fortnite allow you to select your server when playing the free multiplayer portion?

If so, try to pick a server closer to your friend's home, it might help him. If not, he may have to pass on this one.

Forum Topic "Positioning of liquid CPU cooler"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 5 days ago

Aside from the answer you already got, it is generally recommended to have the cables at the bottom opf the radiator when it is in the front of the case to help prevent air bubbles from circulating within the loop which increases the sound generated by the loop/pump.

Forum Topic "How to overclock RAM?"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 2 points 5 days ago

The problem here is that officially, your selected motherboard only supports up to 3200 speed RAM. Also, Ryzen CPUs are more susceptible to voltage than Intel CPUs and end up having much more issues running 4000+ RAM than something like an 8600K for example.

That being said, getting RAM to run at speed is as simple as enabling in the BIOS something called XMP profile, its basically a preset OC for your RAM to allow it to run over 2133 speed which is the default speed for DDR4 RAM. Be sure to update your BIOS though as the Ryzen platforms received a lot of patches for RAM compatibility and stability.

It is still possible you might not get the full speed of your RAM due to Ryzen's nature. You might have to settle for something like 2666 or 2933. This is less fo an issue today than at launch but it can still occur.

Forum Topic "Which CPU? (I feel like I have my choice locked down, but I wish to see what others think I should pick)"

Chillsabre 2 Builds 1 point 5 days ago

Why consider only Intel?

Something like the upcoming Ryzen 2500X would work fine here as well, not to mention the Ryzen motherboards are cheaper and comes with a decent cooler even for overclocking.

In ESports title, the Ryzen CPUs can also provide heavy frame rates and perform well in cases where multicores can be used.

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