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Build Guide

Enthusiast Gaming Build

by ThoughtA

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366 Comments
NOTE: A more recent version of this guide is available here.

Description

This high end build features a black and red theme. As such, you'll find numerous part choices have been made to achieve this aesthetic. If black and red isn't your thing, feel free to use our Colors filter to select parts with different colors.

You can see a video based on this guide in action here.

CPU and Cooler

At this budget, we're running an i5-6600K. This quad-core CPU features an unlocked multiplier for easy and often significant overclocking. While not all games will benefit from overclocking, games like Overwatch can benefit significantly from a faster CPU. Overclocking can also help your CPU stave off obsolescence for a good while longer. All of that being said, if you're not comfortable overclocking, you can save money by stepping down to an i5-6600, removing the non-stock cooler, and going with a cheaper H170 motherboard. If you do remove the CAPTAIN 240 EX cooler from your list, note that the i5-6600k does not come with its own cooler, and you'll have to add one. The i5-6600 does come with a cooler. As mentioned above, our selected cooler is the Deepcool CAPTAIN 240 EX. It's a sharp-looking cooler and keeps with the black and red theme.

Motherboard

We have selected the MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC motherboard to continue our black and red theme and allow overclocking via the i5-6600k's unlocked multiplier. This board supports 4 DIMMs for up to 64GB of RAM at several overclockable RAM speeds. It also include some basic expectations like a USB 3.0 header. The Z170A Tomahawk AC has 6 SATA 3.0 connectors for all your storage needs. Additionally, SLI/Crossfire is an option down the road with this board, though you'll want to make sure your PSU could handle multiple GPUs if you go that route.

Storage

Storage requirements vary from to user so we've selected both a solid state drive and a mechanical drive as a base line for this guide. Since our motherboard has an m.2 port we can avoid using a couple extra cables by adding an m.2 to the part list. The parametric selection chooses an m.2 drive at 512GB or larger which you can use for your operating system, games and regularly accessed programs. Should you need more storage we have also included a parametric filter to choose a 3TB or larger mechanical drive that runs at 7200rpm. Feel free to add more as less storage based on your usage and needs.

Memory

For memory, we're filtering for the best-priced 2x8GB kit of black and red DDR4 RAM. Feel free to click the "From parametric filter" link to see the various options and pick a color that suits you. With how fast RAM is these days, aesthetics will likely matter more to you than the negligible performance difference faster RAM provides in gaming. We're also taking a sparse selection of roughly 1TB SSDs that have proven to be fast, and we're including a filter for the best-priced 3TB mechanical hard drive. Everyone's storage needs differs, so feel free to change those capacities to your heart's desire.

GPU

Our GPU is the very popular GeForce GTX 1080. This is currently one of the fastest single GPU video cards in the market - you may want to look into a 120-144Hz and/or 2560x1440 resolution monitor for this bad boy. The parametric filter is set for the best-priced 1080 available, but feel free to click the "From parametric filter" link to browse our listing of 1080s. For those interested in VR, the GTX 1080 will have no problem playing any and and all applications currently on the market.

Case

All of our parts are housed in the recently released Thermaltake View 27. This case stands out with its gull-wing window and translucent front panel, and it features 2 front panel USB 3.0 ports and excellent cable management. Cases tend to be highly personal choices, so make sure you browse our listed cases to see what suits you.

PSU

Powering the build is a sparse selection of some of the most well-reviewed PSUs available - all without breaking the bank. All of them are certified 80+ Gold and either semi-modular or fully-modular.


Edit: Newegg has put together a SuperCombo based on this build guide and its accompanying video. If you're considering building a system based around this guide, make sure to check it out!

Update: The original SuperCombo above is no longer available, but Newegg has kindly made an alternate SuperCombo that is even closer to our build video components. A big thanks to them for making this offer available!

Part List Customize This Part List

Compatibility Check: See notes below.

Estimated Wattage: 397W
Component Selection Base Promo Shipping Tax Price Where
CPU $373.75 $373.75 PB Technologies Buy
CPU Cooler $159.00 FREE $159.00 DTC Systems Buy
Motherboard
Memory
From parametric filter
  • Type: 288-pin DIMM
  • Size: 16GB (2x8GB)
  • Heat Spreader: Yes
  • Color: Black/Red, Red, Red/Black, Red/White, White/Red
$197.00 $197.00 1stWave Technologies Buy
Storage
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 512GB - 10TB
  • Interface: M.2 (M)
  • Form Factor: M.2-2280
$278.00 $278.00 1stWave Technologies Buy
From parametric filter
  • Capacity: 3TB - 10TB
  • Type: 7200RPM
  • Interface: SATA 6 Gb/s
  • Form Factor: 3.5"
$158.00 $158.00 1stWave Technologies Buy
Video Card
From parametric filter
  • Chipset: GeForce GTX 1080
$839.00 $839.00 1stWave Technologies Buy
Case $172.99 $172.99 PB Technologies Buy
Power Supply $179.95 $179.95 Computer Lounge Buy
Total: $2357.69
* Using your selected merchants and only including nearby in-store pickup prices)
* Some physical dimension restrictions cannot (yet) be automatically checked, such as cpu cooler / RAM clearance with modules using tall heat spreaders.

Compatibility Notes

Comments Sorted by:

jipster69 4 Builds 30 points 5 months ago

I read through these comments ThoughtA and I just repeatedly...

* facepalm *

So frustrating it must be... I think people are confusing "enthusiast" with "glorious" but yes, both are subjective. Then, not knowing what a parametric filter is to PSU bashing... you are a saint. Thanks for the updated build guide. Keep up the good work!

Robotfood 2 Builds 9 points 5 months ago

I agree.

I mean as soon as we get into high-end GPU's and unlocked CPU's I think that's enough to be considered "enthusiast". This is by no means a mainstream build and the parts choices here would have you set for a long long while.

DuRkArcher 6 points 5 months ago

jipster I completely agree with you. Also, ThoughtA, amazing job.

bryntheskits -1 points 2 months ago

I kinda see their point a little. $100 mobo? off-brand AIO? $70 case? I mean I'm sure it runs primo, but I can see why people would try and argue the "enthusiast" title.

THEDOOMEDHELL -6 points 4 months ago

I just don't see why you'd have an i5 with a 1080... is the i5 oc'd actually that good?

jipster69 4 Builds 8 points 4 months ago

You are talking a few (not discernable) fps difference between an i7 and i5 in 90+% of all gaming scenarios. There are a few titles where more threads can be utilized... and therefore the gains or more pronounced.

I would NOT refer to this difference as a bottle neck of the GPU by the i5. Its really just the ability of the i7s 8 logical cores to shine a little brighter so to speak.

MightyMushroom 2 points 3 months ago

exactly, if your going to be doing more cpu extensive tasks like video rendering or streaming an i7 will help but even the i5 could handle these things fairly well

THEDOOMEDHELL -8 points 4 months ago

But we're talking about an enthusiast build right? Not just for gaming but for actual work loads?

jipster69 4 Builds 8 points 4 months ago

Enthusiast Gaming Build

THEDOOMEDHELL 3 points 4 months ago

Ok sorry then

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jipster69 4 Builds 6 points 4 months ago

Yea... So we talking 120 vs 110 fps? Even 60 vs 50 fps is hard to distinguish. I acknowledged it benches higher... but other than the higher numbers on paper, it doesn't equate to a noticeable performance gain when we are talking strictly gaming (in most titles). There are a few AAA and multi thread games that will shine higher than normal... but at this time it is an exception and not the norm.

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SpazSpy 1 point 4 months ago

Not anymore.

JoemanXD 1 Build 22 points 4 months ago

Why in gods holy name do people think a 6600K would bottleneck a GTX 1080. ******* hell...

halkun 10 points 4 months ago

I understand the frustration. I'm sure it's honest mistake with people being new to the pc building area. :)

manquake 1 Build 6 points 4 months ago

im pretty sure it has to do with people simply reading benchmark reviews and not actually doing real life testing and personal reviews. When using a pc for everyday/gaming/productivity you are never going to have just one thing running or always overclocking to the max. for gaming the 6600k is just fine put a Titan on it for pete's sake If you want to. At the end of the day people build their dream machine if it pleases them go for it!!

shadowfax6482 4 points 3 months ago

hey it will bottleneck a GTX 1080 by about .1fps what you thinking :P

unicorn_impaler 5 points 2 months ago

Unacceptable, literally unplayable.

somerandomguy345 1 point 4 months ago

I don't regret getting the 6600k, yet. I regret the mobo decision. My other computer has the 6700k (and is overclocked to 4.4) and it has no bottleneck. Windows and some other programs surprisingly eat up little bytes of bandwidth and it adds up. Until I saw it with my own eyes I didn't believe it could happen.

I've been replacing parts over the last couple months to remove bottlenecks (so far RAM and HDD).

Now that i've upgraded the HDD and the RAM, the CPU is hitting 100%. Keep in mind, the next step is a new mobo and overclocking or getting the 7700k and a z270 board.

GTX 1080 6600k H110m SSD 16 GB DDR4 2800 (limited to 2133 by mobo)

4IRS0FT 4 points 3 months ago

There will always be bottle-necking in the system no matter what but depending on the balance of your system it could be unnoticeable.

ymom2 -4 points 3 months ago

In battlefield one, my 6600 bottlenecks my GTX 1080. However, this is probably because poor optimization or a bug in the game.

ten8yp 2 Builds 0 points 3 months ago

parts do not bottleneck other parts.

bombarde136 2 points 2 months ago

Wait what?

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Baco -4 points 2 months ago

Because it bottlenecks a GTX1070, on Battlefield 1 for instance...

R.brooks 2 points 2 months ago

How??????

Baco 1 point 2 months ago

On 64 multiplayer maps, frame drops to 80 fps and 100% cpu utilization all the time. GTX1070 can handle it 144fps, i5 6600k can not.

ten8yp 2 Builds -5 points 3 months ago

why in gods holy name do people think computer parts bottleneck EACH OTHER... they DO NOT. Programs and tasks "bottleneck" specific (lesser) parts of a system as a whole.

But on that thought... -Why in god holy name would someone build a computer like this? -Why in gods holy name would someone buy an I5 6600k (around $200ish cpu) and pair it with a $600 GPU -Why in gods holy name would someone spend $168.99 on an M.2 drive that is well known to be slower, last less time and generally be of lesser quality/performance than other similar drives? -Why in gods holy name would someone build a nice computer like then put it in a $61 inept case like the one chosen? I'm sure there are more I've missed but you get the point. This build is ****.

WirelessCables 1 Build 6 points 3 months ago

Why in gods holy name would someone buy an I5 6600k (around $200ish cpu) and pair it with a $600 GPU

The i5-6600k and GTX 1080 has proven to be an effective combo. If your budget is tighter, you could downgrade to a 1070. Plus, you can always overclock the i5 to get a little more performance out of it.

$61 inept case

The staff try to rotate through cases that are uncommon or unique. For example, the View 27 is not a very common case, and unique, though not to everyone's taste (I personally think Thermaltake should have spent longer designing it.) Since it is not very common and is unique, it has a higher chance of being in a build guide. Unless the staff have changed their case 'tiering', that is. ;-)

This build is ****.

No need to be rude. If you think that the build guide should be changed, try providing a parts list with your changes. The staff are open to suggestions! =-)

ten8yp 2 Builds 3 points 3 months ago

It wasn't personal and definitely not meant as a personal attack. I'm sure the person who built this guide has done MANY good ones like I've seen on this website. Didn't mean to be rude, I just dont care for the build. Like I said it wasn't personal. I apologize if it was taken personally.

I understand what you mean about the case. And honestly you're absolutely right. Perhaps I was a little quick to judge since it is such a unique design. I also agree they could have done just a few things a little different and it would have been amazing. If you'll allow me, I retract my "inept" comment.

I have an I5-6600k and I love it. Its a great cpu and for a $1300ish budget its decent. The GTX 1080 is also a great gpu. They just dont belong together. The 1080 is a high end card that belongs in higher end builds and particularly at a $1300 budget someone building a system should be looking at a GTX 1070 or something in the $200-$400 budget for GPU's. Showing this build as a suggested guide is very BAD advice to newcomers or people who may not know the products as well as others.

Again, I dont mean anything personal and I'm not attacking any individuals. Its just my opinion of the build. Since you requested here are two different variants of this build I would suggest both in the same price range. I kept a few of the items the same and left the same case. This build was about a $1500 one if you include the motherboard (which I would have picked a slightly different variant) but I left it the same to try to get a similar budget/result. The first is about $165 less, the second is about $75 more and worth every penny.

About $165 less...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor $234.69 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Deepcool CAPTAIN 240 EX 153.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $86.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard -
Memory Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $129.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.69 @ OutletPC
Video Card MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card $428.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Thermaltake View 27 ATX Mid Tower Case $61.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $89.49 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1201.82
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-18 08:27 EST-0500

About 75$ more

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor $329.99 @ SuperBiiz
CPU Cooler Deepcool CAPTAIN 240 EX 153.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $86.99 @ SuperBiiz
Motherboard MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard -
Memory Avexir Core Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory $79.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 960 Evo 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $129.99 @ B&H
Storage Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $89.69 @ OutletPC
Video Card Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 8GB AMP! Edition Video Card $580.66 @ Amazon
Case Thermaltake View 27 ATX Mid Tower Case $61.99 @ NCIX US
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply $79.49 @ SuperBiiz
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $1438.79
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-01-18 08:29 EST-0500
WirelessCables 1 Build 5 points 3 months ago

It wasn't personal and definitely not meant as a personal attack. I'm sure the person who built this guide has done MANY good ones like I've seen on this website. Didn't mean to be rude, I just dont care for the build. Like I said it wasn't personal. I apologize if it was taken personally.

Don't worry. =-) It wasn't.

I understand what you mean about the case. And honestly you're absolutely right. Perhaps I was a little quick to judge since it is such a unique design. I also agree they could have done just a few things a little different and it would have been amazing. If you'll allow me, I retract my "inept" comment.

Of course! Apology accepted!

Again, I dont mean anything personal and I'm not attacking any individuals. Its just my opinion of the build.

Sure! I understand.

nwdphoto 3 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Perfect example of why I like this community. People are mature enough to apologize and have thoughtful (gernerally =p ) conversations about builds. yay

DroidMX 1 Build 2 points 3 months ago

Just a suggestion I would make to this build. I would recommend 16g ddr4 ram instead of the 8. If someone goes for a 6700k and a gtx 1080, 16g of ram is not a bad idea. I also agree with you on the M.2 drive. It is a faster drive than a normal ssd, but I personally wouldn't get a 512g M.2, but rather a 120G m.2 just for a few games and OS. These 2 builds are much better editions of the one above though, I might just build it ;-)

ten8yp 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Thanks for the feedback! I went with a good middle ground on M.2 ssd and went with a 256gb variant.

Whose build had 8gb of RAM lol?

bombarde136 1 point 2 months ago

I got a Plextor PCIe 256gb and 120 would just not have been enough ;-)

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Faizan 5 points 3 months ago

It's nowhere near close to bottlenecking any GPUs out right now.

Beb 2 points 3 months ago

It really shouldn't. It should even be able to handle the Titan in some cases. I think people doubt how much power this CPU actually has.

Baco -4 points 2 months ago

Depend on the game/task...

vagabond139 5 Builds 14 points 4 months ago

Its not a build guide unless there are some salty comments.

jipster69 4 Builds 4 points 3 months ago
WirelessCables 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Preach.

sciencekidster 8 points 5 months ago

I'm really new to this - Is there any way you could post a build video?

manirelli staff 7 Builds 13 points 5 months ago

We plan to build this one after the holidays. Keep an eye out!

CheddarMelt 1 point 4 months ago

Thanksgiving or Christmas? ;)

Mine is being delivered this week...

manirelli staff 7 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Thanksgiving. I believe later this week but it depends on some of our other projects.

dragon-hypernova 3 points 4 months ago

Where would I found this video?

Den6612 1 point 4 months ago

Is there anyway I can keep up with your build guides? I am new, btw.

manirelli staff 7 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

We update them roughly once a month. Your best bet is to just visit the guide main page periodically. Welcome to the site!

CheddarMelt -1 points 4 months ago

cool! Thanks.

necronikka 1 point 4 months ago

Are you planning to make a build video on this? I'd love to see it. ! Is it happening soon?

manirelli staff 7 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Video is already shot. We are just finishing up editing. I imagine it will go live this week.

AbandonedMind 1 point 4 months ago

Thank-you will be looking forward to seeing how the case looks with a system in it

necronikka 1 point 4 months ago

It's still not up :(

manirelli staff 7 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

It actually went up 4 days ago. Make sure you subscribe to our youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdcE3DcleM

InvaderGir 1 point 5 months ago

There are plenty of build guides on their YouTube channel. It might not be exactly the same parts but the construction is the same.

pewise 5 points 5 months ago

i5-6600K won't bottleneck GTX 1080... Also u don't need high-frequency DDR4 memory. The difference between 2133 and 2800 is VERY small. In fact, you won't notice it. And liquid cooling like this is too much for this processor. You should have taken Corsair H70 or something like it.

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 2 points 5 months ago

Why is it too much?

Most AIOs under 240mm have horrible value

sterfri99 0 points 4 months ago

Also depends on how far you OC it. I don't know if I'd want an H70 on it if I'm pushing the CPU to 4.5Ghz

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 3 points 4 months ago

It doesn't really matter. You can get much better air coolers for less.

Was it necessary to downvote me?

ten8yp 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Its ok... I up-voted you. The cooler in this build is perfect.

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

thank you

sterfri99 0 points 4 months ago

A. Some people prefer air cooling since it's definitely cheaper, and often the price:performance (heat dissipation) is better than AIO's. Personally, I prefer shelling out a couple extra bucks for the tiny performance increase and the slightly quieter cooling if I'm pushing a higher OC. Hence, why I mentioned that it depends.

B. I didn't?

Matthewtina2015 1 Build 3 points 4 months ago

That's the thing though. A $70 H70 performs worse than a Dark Rock Pro 3 that's $60. The performance isn't good for the price until you hit 240mm AIOs.

Oh, ok, my bad. Sorry

ten8yp 2 Builds -1 points 3 months ago

Why would you spend just a few dollars less on cooling your cpu just to get less performance? The liquid cooler in this build is one of the few parts he actually did RIGHT.

Dolnorgen -5 points 4 months ago

Depends on the games but there is a difference between ram frequency that can go up to 20 fps between 2000 and 3200.

sterfri99 2 points 4 months ago

Mate... no game will increase 20 fps from the RAM speed difference. Amount of RAM will make far more difference than speed.

Dolnorgen 1 point 4 months ago

Looking at benchmarks there seems to be no difference between 32 and 16gb of ram. Whereas speed seems to impact your performances, read this article http://www.techspot.com/article/1171-ddr4-4000-mhz-performance/

javeloe 1 point 4 months ago

well if the bottleneck is on the RAM, usually if the system is in sli or crossfire with a good cpu, and the ram is say ddr4-2133. in this case, using higher clocked ram like ddr4-4333 will give one 10-20 more fps when playing some games. But if the bottleneck is elsewhere, meaning single gpu, the fps gains when using higher clocked RAM is negligible, maybe 2-5 more fps, not worth it. So unless you are building a really high end system with multiple gpus, RAM frequency isn't much of a deal.

DroidMX 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

I truly am sorry saying this but this link's benchmarks on ram are simply impossible. Techspot is a pretty reliable website to me but this info simply cannot be true. I mean, 20 fps difference in video games, that too, ARMA 3? Video games are very minimaly dependant on ram, and by minimal i mean maybe rendering times were 0.6 seconds faster. But FPS by 20? No way

bugler 5 points 4 months ago

I guess I am just old. My last build was 2010. Now it seems that so many folks are building around a color theme. I don't get it but to each their own. For me, the standard of a computer is performance and task accomplishment at given price points. My new Thermaltake case has a window on the side. I purchased the case for the performance specs and options the window is just there, I guess for folks who want to stare in at a few pieces of electronics. As I said, I guess I am just old; however, as I look at reviews on Newegg and amazon has I gather parts for my current build project, it is frustrating to see so many comments start with how good the parts look and not how well they perform.

Maxxoz 4 points 5 months ago

Well okay, there are two general gaming high-end build guides now. The Glorious and the Enthusiast. I agree that this is Enthusiast, but I think it's a bit weird to refer to the Glorious build guide (not saying that any of you guys is referring to the Glorious Build Guide) if you just want a bit more premium parts (f.e. the motherboard is great, but there's a huge difference between a top-of-the-line X99 motherboard and the Tomahawk). Same goes for the case, the SSD and maybe even the PSU. It would be nice if we had a something like a 'Premium Gaming Build', which is an upgraded version of the Enthusiast that includes other parts. They would look really similar, but at least there is something like a difference!

JackOfSpades789 3 points 5 months ago

Just a quick question, why no i7? The 6600k is a great CPU, but couldn't an i7 6700k leave someone with a little bit a breathing room in terms of content creation and "virtual" cores? And yes, I totally agree with your assessment of what the term "enthusiast" is ThoughtA.

llamasbetrippin01 4 points 4 months ago

The 6600k is great budget CPU with no compromises as to gaming, also to productivity it's still a very god CPU, it's performance to price for me but others think likewise. So all-in-all an i5-6600k will not bottleneck from a GTX 1080 under no circumstances, unless of course there is thermal throttling from the CPU which is unlikely because of the AIO.

JackOfSpades789 -3 points 4 months ago

Err, I would beg to disagree. For gaming, the 6600k is fine. For productivity purposes, the 6700k is way better. The extra "virtual"cores that the i7 offers a significant boost to performance in tasks such as Adobe Premier and Adobe After-Effects. The bump in clock speed helps as well, but not that much. Right now, the 6700k is breaking about $300 even (Amazon I believe). If the difference between the 6600k and 6700k is not that great why not go for the better chip?

llamasbetrippin01 5 points 4 months ago

Well of course the 6700k is going to be better in almost all cases, I'm getting the 6700k for that reason and its only like €94 or $100 more

Hambopro 2 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

If one is solely gaming, then the 6600k is sufficient (and actually outperforms the 6700k in some cases when overclocked), but yes I would agree that if you intend to stream/game and create some content then the 6700k might be a suitable option. However I would strongly recommend completely skipping the 6700k and go straight into the 6800k or 5820k for ~$80 more if content creating is more important.

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Hambopro 2 Builds 3 points 4 months ago

Uhh mate, it's at least $110 more at the moment, I personally don't think it's worth the extra 5 fps, and besides with that extra money you could buy a better CPU cooler and overclock the 6600k even further (most get up to 5ghz with decent coolers), which is unbeatable at this current moment.

7thGen 2 points 3 months ago

At least it's not AMD. Triggered

WirelessCables 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

At least it's not AMD.

Zen / Vega

PhantomWizzrobe 3 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately a lot of corners were cut for the 1080...

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

You're underestimating the i5-6600K mate.

PhantomWizzrobe 4 points 2 months ago

I don't mean the 6600K. I mean almost every other part.

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Ah, I see.

RaziA-H 3 points 4 months ago

but can it run pinball 3d

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

30 FPS low settings sorry mate

Nihil84 3 points 4 months ago

Absolutely ditch the liquid cooler and 6600k and get an i7 6700 seeing as it would cost as much and be a stronger cpu

adios_makes_nuggets 0 points 2 months ago

+1

But hey, 6600K is still godly.

ten8yp 2 Builds 1 point 2 months ago

Top comment is bad advice... the 6600k can be overclocked to perform better than the 6700 and a watercooler will extend the life of your cpu.

If anything just upgrade to the 6700K and change another component (like the motherboard)

dragon-hypernova 2 points 4 months ago

Is a step by step video coming? If so when?

Dantuttledt 2 points 4 months ago

In light of my high disdain for liquid cooling units, I beg the question whether a traditional air cooler as being such the Cooler Master Hyper 212X would provide adequate cooling for the given CPU. Furthermore, would the given case provided needed clearance?

fearneley 2 points 3 months ago

Thinking of building my first pc for gaming and editing :) Would love some feedback on what you guys think and if all these parts are viable. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nCPXM8

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Great choice on the parts, definitely an upvote for me.

DGAF_AK87 2 points 3 months ago

Money was spent in wrong place, could've gotten a cheaper MB and got an I7 with the ending total about the same

Rockeythepcgamer 2 points 3 months ago

Will this pc good with gaming and editing videos/photos btw this will be my first pc with a buget of 1500

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Absolutely!

Dairon 2 points 3 months ago

I would preferably go with higher end CPU over GPU.

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

I don't see any bottlenecks though.

llamasbetrippin01 1 point 2 months ago

I have an i3-6100 and an GTX 1080, the CPU is temporary btw, but anyway all games I play are mostly GPU intensive, like RUST, or GTA V, and I get respectful amount of FPS all the time, but even in some CPU intensive game I still get great FPS, the i3-6100 is not to be reckoned with, its price/performance is quite good I must say

sagarreddy2003 2 points 3 months ago

I think that the CPU is going to bottleneck the GPU.

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

It won't.

xTwistts 2 points 2 months ago

If I had any word in this build, it would be change the i5 to an i7, mainly because I think if your dropping $1300 on a computer, you can upgrade the i5 to a i7 6700k.

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

For gaming, I'm sure a 6600K will get you a long way through, so it's not necessary to toss in an i7.

xTwistts 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah, but if you are spending that much, why not just go for something better, if your know what im saying. But it does say Enthusiast and most enthusiasts would prob go with a i7 you know.

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

I'm sure most enthusiasts would go with an unlocked processor though, which means it can be either an i5 or an i7.

x_Vex_x 2 points 2 months ago

I heard the Seagate Barracuda 3TB had a LOT of failure issues.

Jacra96 2 points 2 months ago

is the motherboard free lol

Fanman730 1 point 2 months ago

No it's apparently not being sold anymore. Knowing ThoughtA he will probably change it sooner or later

blametheman 2 points 2 months ago

The black and red theme is very common it seems...

Sammy_Ming 1 point 5 months ago

Ahh the MSI Tomahawk was just what I was looking for

JDHoynes 1 point 5 months ago

The view 27 looks sick

FlimsyBane 1 point 5 months ago

Im getting this build soon. I already bought the SSD, DDr's and the PSU. I was thinking about going with the i5 6500 so I could save some money on the cooler. Why does it say "The motherboard M.2 slot #1 shares bandwidth with SATA 6.0 Gb/s ports. When the M.2 slot is populated, two SATA 6Gb/s ports are disabled." in the compatibility notes? Explain like im five pls first build

InvaderGir 3 points 5 months ago

It means exactly what it says, if you are using an m.2 drive it will disable 2 SATA ports on the motherboard. The motherboard has 6 so it's not an issue.

The i5-6500 is still a great CPU so you can save a bit by going with it and not getting the cooler. The i5-6500 comes with a CPU cooler in the box.

richardlin13 1 point 5 months ago

Nice guide, however do you need to buy a DVD drive to install the drivers?

InvaderGir 4 points 5 months ago

No, it's best to get the most recent drivers from the manufacturers website.

richardlin13 1 point 5 months ago

Thanks!

Lividxphos 1 Build 1 point 5 months ago

wish i had anything close to this, im over here with my first pc with a fx 6300 and a 750 ti. definitely better than my old all in one though lol

Lividxphos 1 Build 1 point 5 months ago

and all these people talking about enthusiast pc's, i think an enthusiast pc is more a pc that you spent a lot of time and put alot of effort into making exactly the way you want it.

Dhaneshen 1 point 4 months ago

lmao, when i considered making my build i got a radeon r7 200, when i could have gotten a gtx 750 ti (but i didn't know they existed at the point, so i wasted $100 on a gpu that's no where near as good as one that is the same price)

motalu 1 point 5 months ago

Pretty new with PC builds and compatibility. Will I be able to instead use an i7 - 4790k instead of the i5- 6600K listed here?

526christian 3 points 5 months ago

No. The 4790K uses a different socket - LGA1150.

hcaz5 3 points 4 months ago

If you want to the 4790k, you should just get an i7-6700k instead. They're about the same price, and the 6700k is a little better. Plus you can use the 6700k in this build, since it has the same socket as the 6600k.

CheezyDoughnut 1 point 5 months ago

Should I worry about any noise cancellation? I don't want it to be too loud while I enjoy it. Also, It seems I cannot add a disc drive, is there any way I can do that? or would it be easier to just not worry about it and try to install windows with a flash drive or something? Thank you for your help!

ntitco1 3 points 4 months ago

I dont think you have to worry much about the noise. I'm not personally sure about the Deepcool cooler but most of the time a 240mm AIO should keep the 6600K cool running in quiet mode. The optical drive really depends on your need. If you do want it, maybe replace the case with sth like the Define R5?

CheezyDoughnut 1 point 4 months ago

Hello, ntitco1. Thank you for all your help. My room can get extremely hot in the summertime, so I decided to go with adding more fans and risking the extra noise, if it is too loud, I will look into some noise cancellation. The only issue I have now is that it says estimated wattage went up to 462. Will the 88 watts with the 550w power supply be enough headroom or should I think about getting a slightly higher watt power supply? I think that will be the last of the help I will need lol.

ntitco1 1 point 4 months ago

Dont worry about the noise, adding more fans would let you run them at much lower rpm which generally leads to more quiet system. In terms of need, any system with 1 graphics card shouldnt need more than a 500W PSU, especially modern cards that have become much more energy efficient. I do personally tend to go overkill with my power supply tho. You dont need it, but if you have more money to spend and want to get some future proof, feel free.

ntitco1 3 points 4 months ago

Generally I wouldnt worry too much about the case fans also. Although you can definitely add a couple if you want. They may help (a bit) cuz the 1080 can get quite hot. Just check out how many fans your case support in the first place. A simpler and more budget friendly solution is to settle down to a 1070 card if you dont really need the power of 1080 (lol). And most people dont.

CheezyDoughnut 1 point 5 months ago

Also, if anyone can give me any information about weather or not adding fans is a good idea, that would be great!

ltbest 0 points 4 months ago

I copied my Windows 7 disc to a thumb drive and have successfully used it to boot into setup. You'll need to make the USB bootable: Rufus is great for this - a small, free program https : / / rufus DOT akeo DOT ie/ (Change the word DOT to . and remove all spaces) Otherwise, I have saved my Windows 8.1 media creation tool onto a separate thumbdrive. Then I got smart and put them on a ring and labelled them. Some folks don't like 8.1 but after cleaning up that strange interface I now have very easy to find and HUGE buttons with live weather and news tiles. I think its really clean and sharp.

EdoardoArtz 1 point 4 months ago

(Newbie here this will be my first build soon) 2 questions : Can i switch the GPU with a NVIDIA GTX 1080 one? Can i switch from the i5 to the i7? I need that for streaming. Can i use liquid cooling instead? Is the build overclockable with these changes included?

Space_Rover 1 Build 4 points 4 months ago
  1. Can i switch the GPU with a NVIDIA GTX 1080 one? That is a 1080.
  2. Can i switch from the i5 to the i7? Yes.
  3. Can i use liquid cooling instead? its on the list for the cpu, but for the gpu look at Msi and evga for watercooled 1080s.
  4. Is the build overclockable with these changes included? Yes.
Xorex64 1 point 4 months ago

You can switch to the 1080 bit it probably is not nesseasary

You can switch to i7, you don't jave to have an i7 for streaming. You can use AIOs (liquid cooling). Overclockability depends on the CPU, if the CPU name has a K at the end, like "I5-6600K", then you can overclock it given you have the correct motherboard socket/chipset. In this case, the build is skylake (intel 6th gen) so you would need an LGA1151/Z170 motherboard to overclock.

CheezyDoughnut 1 point 4 months ago

If anyone can help. I added some extra case fans due to my room being very hot over the summer and my estimated wattage wentry up to 461. Is the 550w power supply enough with the 88w headroom or should I get one with more room? I'm not savvy but would assume having it near max power would be bad for the supply, imy just not sure how much room I would need.

PaelentheAwesom 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Honestly, I don't think adding case fans would solve that. It will help if you only have like 2-3 fans right now though. I would suggest get a 650w for a cleaner power distribution and also so you don't have to worry about future power usage(maybe)

Fatchild 1 point 4 months ago

That's one hell of a pc

awfulnaut 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks for the guide! I'll be building this early next week. I'll let you know how it goes!

awfulnaut 1 point 4 months ago

Got the parts early and I have it built and running!

I ran into a couple problems with the cooler since it has to plug into that fan cable hub. The cables are a bit short on the fans that connect to the radiator, and the sticky backing on the hub isn't sticky enough. Also, the tubing that goes to the radiator runs into the RAM a bit, so you just have to push it around them.

The wireless card antennae are very difficult to attach, but that may have just been the one I got. They're just so darn small. I ended up using tweezers to squeeze it on there.

The case is beautiful, but I did have a problem with one screw on the plate that covers the lowest fan slot on the front. It was stripped before I even touched it. Fortunately, you don't need that bottom fan slot. Don't be afraid to yank on that front cover, by the way. It's a little scary, but you just gotta tug on the bottom first and it'll snap out of there.

Thanks for a successful build guide! Now to learn about overclocking... Anyone have any tips on where to start? I'll be praying to the silicon gods that I hit the lotto.

dragon-hypernova 1 point 4 months ago

look at techsource on youtube. He has some great overclocking videos.

Auziarrow 1 point 4 months ago

I have a question. This will be my first gaming computer, but I can only run on WI-FI. What do you recommend as a good adapter?

Orrubieso -2 points 4 months ago

First off I would personally change some things about this build. I recommend getting a SAMSUNG 850 EVO 250GB or 500GB, it is much cheaper, and better in every way possible. SAMSUNG has by far the best SSDs that are out there, if you want to see some stats check out userbenchmark.com. If you have some extra money just go for the Samsung 950 Pro 250GB or 500GB, which is the highest rated SSD out there but can be quite pricey. I know it is completely irrelevant from what you asked but their is a performance difference of 80% in favor of samsung in case you wanted to get this exact build. The Wirless adapter you should get is: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter :)

CarlTurbo13 1 point 4 months ago

Hello, I want to replace the liquid cooler with an air cooler instead. Is there a suitable replacement?

1Star 2 points 4 months ago

I would say that the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo would probably preform well, but if you really want to take overclocking to the max, stick with water cooling.

Jamile 1 point 4 months ago

is the water cooling really necessary or is it a icing on cake for elitists

preaux 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

It isn't necessary, but both air and water have pros and cons. You might be able to eke out an extra 0.1Ghz with a 240mm AIO as opposed to a high end dual tower air cooler like a Dark Rock Pro 3.

Xorex64 1 point 4 months ago

Middle ground. It serves use but is not necessary at this level.

Darkhelms 1 point 4 months ago

I modified this build a little bit. Went with EVGA GTX1070 FTW (leds) and a larger m.2 drive. I'm new to this site so I don't know how to add my parts to the list so here is my link. Let me know what you think.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CYbpzM

Parts should be in tomorrow and I'll try to figure out how to post a picture of the finished build.

Question: Reviews on the PCIe Extension cable (riser) seem to be terrible but this case is designed to use one (if available). What do you guys think about this?

Darkhelms 1 point 4 months ago

Well I built it. Its awesome! Water cooler with that case is so hot (figuratively speaking). Haven't been able to put it through its paces yet but I plan to very soon. Played a little Elite Dangerous on it is all so far. I've attempted to add a few links to the images. All the pieces that I added in my upper link worked like a charm.

https://goo.gl/photos/uXNGjXF4CfCkeFSB7

https://goo.gl/photos/no5vL9JDedw8M2PY6

https://goo.gl/photos/GrPuGgpHCEbmMuT26

DogBiscuits 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Looks good!

Did you post your build on the build page?

barishsarac 1 point 4 months ago

I would not go with Hitachi. WD for sure!

Osmin 1 point 4 months ago

guys if I use this same build but change the graphics card to a GTX 1070 and keep my Intel i5 4460 would the computer still run really well? I have never built or replaced parts on my computer before and really confused on what I should get. I have been told that i5 is not good for gaming by some people and others say I have a good processor already, I would appreciate any help guys especially with compatibility thank you so much!

TristanKing 1 point 4 months ago

1070 would be fine with the 4460 for now, although I'd recommend planning for a CPU upgrade, maybe next year to Cannon Lake.

1Star 1 point 4 months ago

To be honest, i5s are fine for gaming, but if you intend on doing max settings gaming I would suggest the i5 6600k.

Jaybone909 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Really digging that case! I might have to go with that for my next build whenever that may be. Good work!

preaux 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

You have to be careful with those Amazon Hitachi drives, particularly the UltraStars. If you read reviews people are often shipped used or refurbished drives outside of the manufacturer warranty period and the seller only offers a 90-day warranty. It depends on which seller they come from. When recommending builds to people I often have to avoid including Hitachi in my PCPP links if I don't have time to research what the buyer will receive.

I do like the choices in the PSU Parametric filter though, all very high quality options for powering very expensive GPUs and CPUs. I would consider adding the XFX XTR to the list as it's based upon the Seasonic SSR-G Platform.

dragon-hypernova 1 point 4 months ago

How much extra RAM can I pile onto this?

Em_See 2 points 4 months ago

This motherboard supports up to 64gb of DDR4 ram with speeds up to 3400. So, you can add up to 48gb more, if you desire.

dragon-hypernova 1 point 4 months ago

thx

dragon-hypernova 1 point 4 months ago

Recommend these

Thermaltake Sleeve Extension Power Supply Cable Kit, Power Supply, Black & Red (AC-033-CN1NAN-A1) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IA9FFIY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_w6gsybSKBZMHJ

PC_PICKER_100 1 point 4 months ago

this good for wot?

davenator49111 1 point 4 months ago

Personally I think the GTX 1070 would be the better choice. It's cheaper but not much less powerful. Just IMO

Vollmer 1 point 4 months ago

Newbie here. Gonna do this build twice at once with two teens. My first build since mid 90's. A couple newbie questions.

Will a generic gaming pc build video be enough to learn how to do this? If not, what's the best way to learn? Is there anything in this build that you would consider "tricky"?

Thanks much. This has been a great resource.

Xorex64 1 point 4 months ago

Will a generic gaming pc build video be enough to learn how to do this?

Maybe. The videos would cover everything except the AIO. The AIO would ne tricky for a newbie.

AsianPartPicker 1 point 4 months ago

What would be better? i7-6700k + Brand GeForce GTX 1070? Or i5-6600k + Brand GeForce GTX 1080?

Brutfan 2 points 3 months ago

A 6700k and a 1070 would be much better, if your preference is in creating content or working on heavy cpu based projects in applications such as photoshop. However, if your preference is gaming then it is better to get an i5 and a 1080. P.S. In my opinion a 1070 is sufficient for gaming and performs very well in 2k (60 fps and above) in all games I have thrown at it; so a 1080 would not be a good choice for a lite or a beginner gamer.

Bruce0206 1 point 4 months ago

Nice build but why is there a small compatibility issue?

Jkll606 1 point 4 months ago

This looks pretty nice, i'd prefer this over the build I created, https://pcpartpicker.com/list/87s4Yr

DIVIZIM 1 point 4 months ago

Wait can this motherboard actually do sli? On the msi webpage-overview only says that it supports crossfire.

526christian 1 point 4 months ago

No. In the specs it says for PCI-e x16 it can only do x16 and x16, x4. You'd need at least x8, x8 for SLI, so it's already incompatible with SLI.

DIVIZIM 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks in the build description it says that the mother board can do sli

ughusername 1 point 4 months ago

Is 550W enough if you want to oc the cpu to 4.4ghz? Only asking because I want to oc my 6600k someday.

526christian 1 point 4 months ago

You could run an overclocked 6700K with dual 1080s on a good 550W PSU and still have some headroom. It'll do fine.

vinimaciel01 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

One probably dumb question. None of the builds that i'm seeing have a component that receive/connect with the wifi. In the old days, i think, but not shure, there was one. Today, the motherboard do that job?

526christian 1 point 4 months ago

Most motherboards today still don't come with wireless adapters built in/installed. Lots of people in the PC building community just use ethernet, something most if not all motherboards allow you to do.

vinimaciel01 1 Build 1 point 4 months ago

Thanks. Probably i will use too. But... there is a chance that in the future i will Have to place the PC in the other side of the house (not long distance though). So i'm basically covering ground here.

I'm not finding much information about wireless adapters. I connect it direct in the motherboard?

(sorry..bad english...I'm from Brazil o/)

526christian 1 point 4 months ago

I'm not finding much information about wireless adapters. I connect it direct in the motherboard?

PCI-e (x1) and PCI ones you do.

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

You can just check out this video if you're confused.

EmeraldCrafts 1 point 4 months ago

Better than my computer lol

robsausa 1 point 4 months ago

Hi sorry for the stupid question, I'm new here and want to build this with my son for Christmas. The motherboard is out of stock everywhere, can someone recommend a comparable/compatible one ? TIA

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

I can suggest a few:

  1. Asus Maximus VIII Ranger

  2. Gigabyte GA-Z170X Gaming 6

  3. Asus Z170-Pro

  4. MSI Z170A Gaming Pro

Hope I'm not too late.

MikeGMac 1 point 4 months ago

So can this build handle all AAA reasonably well?

ten8yp 2 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

Yes... easily. On all resolutions except 4k. It will still do very well on 4k though, just might have to lower a few settings.

NovemberJoy 1 point 4 months ago

I went through this build, and...well, half of the RAM was defective. Was I just unlucky?

SpazSpy 1 point 4 months ago

So, according to the website, this is $1999 AUD. When I build it via Mwave, it costs a little over $2300. ($2353 to be exact) I think it's because the motherboard has no price... xD

thehighroad 1 point 4 months ago

If i'm not going to overclock, then will i need to change the PSU?

526christian 2 points 4 months ago

No.

prasannaj 1 point 4 months ago

In what way will this help on this build. Could I not just have the Toshiba P300 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive as my storage? Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive And lets say I am running on a 1000 dollar budget I decided to change the graphic card to MSI GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB GAMING X Video Card. But is there anything else I can take out to meet my budget limits ,which also won't hurt my gaming performance by too much?

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Could I not just have the Toshiba P300 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive as my storage?

Yeah, you'll just need to wait a bit longer when booting up Windows 10 as well as game loading screens. (Games like Fallout 4 are greatly affected by this)

is there anything else I can take out to meet my budget limits ,which also won't hurt my gaming performance by too much?

You can swap out the liquid cooler with a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo or maybe a Cryorig H7.

Gd10541123 1 point 4 months ago

I don't think that power supply is going to hold up...

megalkh 1 point 4 months ago

Newbie here. I've ordered all the parts to complete this build, However the motherboard appears to be in great demand and is out of stock on most if not all the sites you have listed. Was hoping to build this pc this week, can you suggest alternative mother boards that will work with the parts in this build that will give the same or better performance? I have a feeling that you build videos are popular and lead to shortages of parts

YogiToxin 1 point 4 months ago

This build looks great, and I'm considering this for my first ever PC build. I have a few questions though before I dive in:

  1. You mention Overwatch in the build notes, and this is by far my favorite game. I'm hoping to run Overwatch on a 27" monitor at 1440p resolution. I know nothing about overclocking but am willing to learn if needed. Will my performance expectations require overclocking with this build? Approximately what fps should I expect with or without overclocking?
  2. Is this build my best option for Overwatch, or would other options serve me better? I don't want to waste money, but am willing to spend a bit more for noticeably better performance.

Thank you for your assistance. Love the video too btw!

BlockIIR 1 point 3 months ago

This build will play overwatch out of the box at 1440p around 90 frames at epic settings. If you are willing to overclock your CPU and GPU(4.6 GHz for the CPU and around 2050-2100 MHz for the GPU are perfectly reasonable) then you will see a noticeable performance increase and hit 100+ frames, with smoother performance. First you need to check your monitor's refresh rate. If it is 60 Hz, then your display is stuck at displaying up to 60 frames per second, no matter how fast the GPU is rendering actual frames, so all the extra performance is lost. If that is the case, then drop the GTX 1080, and get the GTX 1070 instead, as it will suit a 60 Hz 1440p display much better, and save you quite some money. If your panel has 144 Hz refresh rate, then i would suggest to tone some settings down, until the system performance reaches 144 frames per second, so that you have a more fluid experience. More frames in e-sports titles such as Overwatch are always more valuable than say, the visual difference between epic settings and ultra, which is negligible IMO. Good luck with the build, hope i wasn't too late, as it's been almost 3 weeks.

nader_n 1 point 3 months ago

can you make another build with 2 gtx 1080s ?

fearneley 1 point 3 months ago

Thinking of building my first pc for gaming and editing :) Would love some feedback on what you guys think and if all these parts are viable. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nCPXM8

fearneley 1 point 3 months ago

Budget is 1300

1-Z 2 points 3 months ago

If you are Video Editing then I would recommend taking the i7-6700K.

somerandomguy345 1 point 3 months ago

You can still video edit, but there will be some slowness. Definitely not a deal breaker for someone getting started. For example, I've started video editing using DaVinci and did some minor benchmarking on three of my computers using a small render. 7 minutes - i5-3300 with 960 4gb, 5 minutes with i5-6600k (stock) and gtx 1080, and 3 minutes with i7-6700k (4.65 OC) with gtx 960 4gb. There are a lot of variables with video editing, but your build looks good. My recommendation would get the 6700k/7700k and save with an air cooler, and a cheaper version of the 1060. You're likely going to want to start buying more and faster storage, but this will get you started. For example, many software recommend 4 drive systems. So, you could get 3 500 GB HDD instead of the 2TB drive. Also, next step might be backups/NAS drives.

Vollmer 1 point 3 months ago

Thanks very much for the build. I purchased two of the entire build. The video build used a different power source than I purchased (a super nova vs seasonic). I'm kinda stuck now as I don't know the power cables and how they connect. Any help here? A newbie source for connecting a power source? Any comments welcome.

PlasmusAng 1 point 3 months ago

Can someone give tips and improvements on my $2000 budget PC https://pcpartpicker.com/user/PlasmusAng/saved/3BjPxr

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

That is a one hell of an expensive motherboard. I'm sure you can get the same performance for much cheaper.

(Make sure the Graphics Card isn't too long for the case as well!)

PlasmusAng 1 point 2 months ago

it isnt and Im going as overkill as possible

PlasmusAng 1 point 2 months ago

I need the features

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Ah, I see - I guess you're good to go then.

PlasmusAng 2 points 2 months ago

yep

Orion555 1 point 3 months ago

Nice Build - some squirrelly comments but that's OK

Someone asked if you can substitute a motherboard due to availability. Yes. ASRock Z170 Pro4 LGA1151 ATX 4 64GB (3) $99.99

ThoughtA - Good price on your build ($1500) and great parts list. Congrats :)
Nice fast build ++++

KarmAngel 1 point 3 months ago

This is a masterpiece ^_^ Great Work! 1 point for you.

Man, i must get my build done quick to share to this amazing community :)

anoldladyz 1 point 3 months ago

In my opinion, spend the extra money on the i7.

the.moog 1 point 3 months ago

ThoughtA, I just ordered that m.2 drive and am about to return it because reviews crap all over it being poorly architected, unreliable, and as a result, performance is sporadic. Have you been running this build for some time? How do you feel the m.2 PCI-E drive performs in your experience?

1-Z 1 point 3 months ago

How much FPS can you get in these games at 1920X1080 at High Settings if you replace the i5-6600K with a i7-6700K and a MSI GTX 1070: 1. GTA V 2. Crysis 3 3. Metro Last Light 4. Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor 5. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt 6. Battlefield 4 7. Rise of the Tomb Raider

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

You'll be guaranteed to get 120+ FPS on all titles. (Not sure about Rise of the Tomb Raider though)

iTzIvax 1 point 3 months ago

Can I ask a question? If I didn't buy the PC I built, I have to post it in guides instead of Completed Builds?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 3 months ago

If it's a PC you've built, you have photos of it, and you aren't making a post that the owner would rather make, you can make the Completed Build post yourself.

In the future, if you have a question for staff, it's best to send a contact request.

Zangoo 1 point 3 months ago

I am considering making this build, but I have a question. Since the GPU isnt connected directly to the mobo, it needs a riser cable. The video or build doesnt mention anything about this, except one is used. Many people seem to have a problem with the riser cables causing poor performance, stuttering, artifacts etc. What riser was used in this build?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 3 months ago

The GPU actually can still be installed in the conventional way. The riser method is optional. That being said, this is the riser cable we used.

GoTeamRed 1 point 3 months ago

I honestly would change the AIO Liquid Cooler to something else, as I do not like the Red too much, I would much rather do a Blue themed build, but that is just personal preference, it looks good.

jormu 1 point 3 months ago

I'm building this setup with a local vendor who will assemble the pieces for me. However some parts are not available here. I picked the Ballistix 16 GB DDR4-2400 but the website tells me that the RAM has a higher speed than the processor and in order to have usage of the speed I need to change it in the BIOS along with voltage, but I certainly don't want to do something wrong here. Also I changed the power supply to a Sharkoon WPM600 but I don't think that would be worse, right?

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

As for the RAM Speed, I'm pretty sure it's just up to the motherboard itself and not the processor.

But do not EVER cheap out on the Power Supply, this can fry your components!

RebceeC 1 point 3 months ago

The build is £1300, but the CPU is on the minimum requirements for Battlefield 1... That can't be right?

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

This isn't right, it's just for marketing purposes.

utterstutter 1 point 3 months ago

I very much like your build/idea so much i i incorporated some part to my future build from your build. Due to being power hungry with my future build i was gonna load it with a i7 core but i was was wrong i didnt need the i7 to get power (cue tim the toolman grunt)..! i was wondering if i can "dumb" down my choice of 1080 to the 1060 , and i liked the red and black theme but saw your choice for the cooler in white and switched to it for some reason in my mind the red white and the led blue fans appeal to me. but the real reason for me making any attempt at a comment is when i was on the tube checking out builds i kept hearing about the m.2 drives and i was like cool because before that i was dead set on having a asus motherboard, then msi caught was my eye and then rok now im back to msi due to popularity and the m.2 configure but my build says a incompatibilty issue the motherboard m.2 slot shares bandwithdth sata 6.0 ports When the m.2 slot is populated, two sata 6gbs ports are disable. i dont understand i picked the 3tb tosiba as your did cause thats where im gonna store games and music but i changed the m.2 to 256 gbs for my os. thanks and thank you for helping me grow a better build.

d0m 1 point 3 months ago

can I change GPU to NVIDIA GTX 1070?

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Yeah, you won't lose lots of performance.

Ryanboss52 1 point 3 months ago

One more suggestion, you shouldn't go with them I've had a reallly bad experience with them, I had 2 gtx 970's from them and they died within a year, and they weren't even overclocked. Other than that this is a solid build.

theflamer 1 point 3 months ago

Will the Zotac GeForce GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme Edition fit instead of the base AMP edition?

jaynj 3 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

I wish I could have found a 1080 for that price when I was building my main rig. This build is closely spec to mine except i have a 1070 (open box discount)

Wurmfist 1 point 3 months ago

Is there a reason why they don't ever include the price of an OS in these builds? You might as well add another 100 dollars for windows 10. You might find it cheaper, but you're not going to build this type of system and load linux on it. Who would do that?

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 3 months ago

Some people actually do just that. Additionally, many people have access to discounted or free operating systems through their university program.

We don't want to assume what everyone's operating system situation is, and the scope of these guides are contained to just the box.

loliwut 1 point 3 months ago

I feel it necessary to point out that for $70 more you can eek out something that would completely dust this build. Even keeps the black/red theme! admittedly not as much room for expansion, but 8GB of RAM? for an enthusiast build? The GPU has as much RAM as the rest of the machine, which is just silly. https://pcpartpicker.com/user/loliwut/saved/rmKcf7

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 3 months ago

The build has 16GB of RAM.

loliwut 1 point 3 months ago

My mistake, I misread.

Lavacoal123 1 point 3 months ago

This, is my to-be gaming build, and costs much less than this. Upon finding this build, I realized you have just about the same specs as the one here, but for a price tag $250 heavier.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WvPpVY

Edit: Well, my gpu is different, but go team red! The benchmarks on these gpus (minus bottlenecks) are very similar...

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

my gpu is different, but go team red! The benchmarks on these gpus (minus bottlenecks) are very similar...

  1. There are no bottlenecks

  2. A GTX 1080 is 56% better than an RX 480

  3. A GTX 1080 also has double the VRAM of the 4 GB RX 480

(Plus: Nice choice on the case)

Zeonn 1 point 3 months ago

This should be updated as the new kaby lake processors are out and the 7600k can easily run at 5 ghz stable without running the temps too high.

jedidiesel 1 point 3 months ago

I've nearly completed this build, the last step is installing the GPU, but I can't bring myself to order the riser. The reviews that the riser has received are consistently terrible. In the comments section, there were a couple other people who were also concerned about using this apparently subpar product. Any chance you can provide some alternative product options ThoughtA? If not, I'll just go with with the traditional installation. Excellent build/guide, mate!

itSp4x 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

**It's not an enthusiast build unless you go with an I7 and the x99 chipset with at least 32GB of RAM!!!! And what is this puny graphic card? Where's the titan x pascal?

All jokes aside, pretty cool build! Good choice of part and I like the black and red theme. +1 for a well written build!

Frifster 1 point 3 months ago

I want to try this build out as a first time builder, but the MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX is sold out; anyone know of any boards that would fit into this build guide?

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Any Z170/270 motherboard will work, just make sure you have more than 2 USB 3.0 ports on your motherboard of choice in case if you have lots of peripherals. (Plus, since it's your first time building, it's better to buy a kaby lake CPU instead)

Zepalone 1 point 3 months ago

would this be good for streaming and or video editing?

CWILSON2 1 point 3 months ago

The price for the motherboard isnt listed and i cant find one. Did they stop producing these? If so, would there be another that you would recommend?

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Asus Maximus VIII Ranger (Z170)

Bsutton99 1 point 3 months ago

Seems like a nice build om getting ready to build my own as well

Jiwookim22 1 point 3 months ago

That ram isn't very fast at all. All the lags you feel during hardcore gaming comes from ram being slow. You can't forget about cas latency because true speed comes from cas latency/ram speed. I hope many people don't get tricked by a cheap ram. They are cheap for a reason but if you aren't gaming, then they are excellent ram.

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 3 months ago

All the lags you feel during hardcore gaming comes from ram being slow.

While there's perhaps something to be said for RAM speed and CAS latency affecting performance, the above quote is certainly not true. There are many more causes for lowered performance than just that. GPU processing speed alone is far more common and core to performance in games, for example.

Please be careful when making such sweeping statements like the one above, as it can mislead people who don't know better.

Jiwookim22 1 point 3 months ago

I do know that but many people are buying RAMs because they are cheap. Some of these rams are cheap for a reason. If you mainly in for gaming, then you should spend the money for a better GPU than on ram. But for an all around computer, multitasking large application takes a better performing RAM. I dislike the fact that people just recommend new people coming into the industry with cheap RAM. Of course, the rams you mentioned are not bad but if you want to play 4k games then you would want to consider a better RAM also, not just the GPU.

Electrodyno 1 Build 1 point 3 months ago

Maybe PCPartPicker should update this build? I see that the MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC MoBo no longer appears to be commercially available.

Dan-youd 2 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

An i5 6600K would definately not be what I would personally class as an enthusiast build. I've got a custom watercooled i7 4790K which I still wouldn't class as enthusiast back when it was built to be honest, but that isn't to say the system is bad and I'm not slating it by any means, just probably poor choice of words to describe it that's all.

As regards to people thinking the i5 6600K will bottleneck a 1080 they need to do some actual research because that isn't ever going to happen and even in the extremely unlikely chance that it does get bottlenecked in any way shape or form simply overclock if you haven't already. I've used the 6600K in a few builds for people now and it's a great CPU. Even put one in my dads PC and it's currently overclocked at +28% stable on water giving it a Cinebench score close to that of my i7 4790K at stock speeds.

Keep up the good work but consider changing the Title as unless it's a 2011 socket CPU I wouldn't really class it at Enthusiast.

PhelanPKell 1 point 3 months ago

Nifty build.

Admittedly, I think Core i7 when someone says "enthusiast", but it's a valid point that being a K-series automatically makes it an enthusiast proc.

As for bottlenecking, well, if a Core i5 6th gen bottlenecks a GTX 1080, than my purchase of a GTX 1070 with nothing but my lowly Core i7 3770 would have been a bad purchase. It wasn't, by the way.

bgmoore77 1 point 3 months ago

I just finished this build (actually, the Newegg version). Can anyone help me wade through the myriad of monitor choices? 1440, 4k...etc. Suggestions for the best monitor for this gaming setup?

Thanks to all. I read every comment here, watched the videos. Amazing sensation when pushing the power button for the first time and the thing actually turned on.....

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

1440p 144Hz refresh rate monitor, A good example would be the infamous ROG SWIFT PG278Q.

Nweeby 1 point 2 months ago

i dont think you should water cool a 6600k, but i can see that you picked that cooler because it matches with the build

itsFeral 1 point 2 months ago

It is an enthusiast build. I know this because when I saw this amount of performance for such a low price, I was extremely enthusiastic :p

garbs 1 point 2 months ago

$50 wasted on an AIO cooler

$50 wasted on a BAD nvme drive

HMMMMM WHAT CORE UPGRADE COSTS ROUGHLY $100 DOLLARYDOOS????

**** like this is why "buy an i5" is a meme.

stairs248 1 point 2 months ago

Is that PSU sufficient for a 1080? I know it meets minimum requirements, but you definitely don't want to cut it short with a PSU for such a high end GPU.

DogBiscuits 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

Hells yeah it is.

My psu is on par, and im maxing 1440p all the live long day on everygame I've thrown at it.

ClassyCreeper909 1 point 2 months ago

Same psu i have And also i love the build, and color scheme, my pc is white and black

pansonmata123 1 point 2 months ago

What other case would work well with this build?

Fanman730 1 point 2 months ago

Will the motherboard start being sold again? Or will you just change the motherboard entirely?

96766 1 point 2 months ago

Thank you so much for this guide! I hope you are updating this within the week or so, I'll be buying everything on this enthusiast guide! Especially that gtx 1080!

ZombieStew 1 point 2 months ago

I don't understand how you could list this as enthusiast yet make budget decisions like settling on the cpu. An enthusiast build has something that isn't a 6th gen i5 that will be redundant in the soon to be future while paired with a 1080

montygrail13 1 point 2 months ago

so i cant find a place to buy this MOBO for less than 300 bucks now that it is unavailable. i need some replacement for it and i dont know how to find something that will fit all the pieces and in the case

ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 2 months ago

The guide is going to be updated very shortly with a new list of motherboards, if you don't mind waiting.

Orrubieso 0 points 4 months ago

I recommend not to get this ssd, instead get a SAMSUNG 850 EVO or the SAMSUNG 950 PRO (The 950 is pricey). Look at user benchmarks for stats, it is cheaper and better in every way possible.

martin8aw 0 points 4 months ago

This would be a great budget build if it used a less expensive GPU. I know plenty of decent GPUs that perform well for a budget build that are not $500-$600, like the GPU you have chosen. A good choice would be the Sapphire Raedon R9 Fury Nitro, which is only around $350, and is still a very good GPU, capable of running Battlefield 4 at max settings at an average of 35 FPS. Otherwise, it's a great budget build

joeyyellow2005 1 point 4 months ago

erm, I don't think budget is the best word for that.

martin8aw 1 point 4 months ago

Budget for a gaming PC. Budget gaming PCs can be anywhere from $800 to about $1300

tiny_voices 2 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

This completely depends on your definition of the word budget. There isn't some set range agreed upon by the gaming PC gods or any **** like that.

joeyyellow2005 1 point 4 months ago

yeah... not on my budget

barishsarac 0 points 4 months ago
dragon-hypernova 1 point 4 months ago

is CPU compatible?

barishsarac 1 point 4 months ago

Yes. Both Skylake LGA1151

dragon-hypernova 1 point 4 months ago

thx

1Star 1 point 4 months ago

That cpu is not cheaper, and for gaming the i7 won't outperform enough to make it worth the money.

barishsarac 0 points 4 months ago

i5-6600K shows about $228, i7-6700K is $280 as of now for me to get. It might be at the time I wrote there was a deal on i7 or i5 showed more expensive but price difference $52.

First of all, definitely worth it toget i7 over i5 anyday, just because i7 is best in its line i3,i5,i7.

Secondly, why don't you get both and give it a benchmark especially after OC i7, then we can see which one gets how many frames.

Lastly, if you argued it won't make a difference to be seen by eye, well then I'd tell you that along with OC, you have a possibilty to use same CPU over a longer period of time.

Xorex64 3 points 4 months ago

I7 is going overboard, especially when you have a GTX 1080 as a GPU, i really don't think anyone would notice enough of a difference to justify spending more money on it.

Normally i would say to never get the 6700K unless you have a situation where it really is necessary. You were right at the time, but normally is the 6700K is at stupid prices.

well then I'd tell you that along with OC, you have a possibilty to use same CPU over a longer period of time.

That argument has nothing to do with seeing frames. Also, if anything, OCs lower the lifespans of CPUs

barishsarac -1 points 3 months ago

Did I anywhere claim someone will notice difference frame-rate difference "right now"?

It's difficult to argue with people that are not paying attention to what other has to say.

Read all my messages and then write your comments, do everyone a favor.

Here they are in summary: 1) i7-4790K is faster than i5-4690K. 2) Personally, I rather have i7 over i5 anyday for many reasons. 3) Although frame-rate difference may not be possible to see with the games build in today's technology, difference in speed between these two CPUs may play a major role in the upcoming games since new games end up requiring more and more power from the computer.

Lastly, I am not talking about OCing CPU right now, as you said there is no need. 2 years, 3 years MAX maybe 4 years from now, when games require much more speed, by then I might OC to catch up with latest games.

So by paying another 50$, I would save my self from spending 700-800$ on building computer 2-3 years from now. This is the mentality I had when I started building computers 10 years back, it is the mentality of my corporation today.

This will be my last message in this argument as it's frustrating to argue with people whom avoid to read to desperately attempt to prove their points.

adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

I'm sure intel will release newer CPUs by the time 2019-2020 comes by, you're acting as if core i5s-i7s will be be the last CPUs to be ever made.

i5-6600K shows about $228, i7-6700K is $280 as of now for me to get

But you also have to be aware that some countries have **** pricings, so a price jump from an i5 to an i7 might not be as friendly as you would've expected it to be for some people.

Did I anywhere claim someone will notice difference frame-rate difference "right now"?

And you previously said...

Secondly, why don't you get both and give it a benchmark especially after OC i7, then we can see which one gets how many frames.

1Star 1 point 4 months ago

Its just going overboard, I won't debate that some people might use the i7 power, but that is overkill in my opinion. Also, you want to check other sites like micro center, I got my i-5 6600k for 180$ and i got an extra 40$ off for bundling it with a motherboard.

barishsarac 0 points 4 months ago

You do get about 40$ off with cpu bundle no matter i5 or i7 at microcenter.

Based on PC-SPECS i5-6600K is 25% over recommended CPU speed, i7-6700K is 38% over recommended CPU speed to play Watch Dogs 2.

This is a game that came out just around this time and you are only 25% over the recommended speed.

How long do you think i5 will be above or at least equal to recommended speed? and How long i7 will be? Last question, How long can i7 with OC play latest games?

When you build computer, you investing money. That is your investment. Spend 40-50$ more and make a long lasting investment. Today what you consider overkill, tomorrow will be obsolete. It always has been, always will be.

Link:http://www.pc-specs.com/pc-custom-builder/cpu?&search=6600k&compatFilter=true&perPage=25&minPrice=0&maxPrice=none&showAll=true&minRating=&popular=&makes%5B%5D=all&minCores=&maxTDP=&socket=&unlockedMultiplier=

1Star 1 point 4 months ago

Yes, I understand what you are saying, but i got my i5 6600k for 180, plus the 40 off with a motherboard. That is mush more than 40 to 50 dollar diffence, also if you overclock your i5 6600k by the time that it won't run games at max settings, you will have probably either decided do do other things with your life, or decide to go hardcore into the pc gaming world to just upgrade anyways. To be honest, the gap between the two is not really that important unless you make your living gaming.

Xorex64 1 point 4 months ago

This is a game that came out just around this time and you are only 25% over the recommended speed.

I would advise against using that site, pc specs. They cite no sources as far as i can find.

ThinkWithPortals 2 Builds -1 points 5 months ago

The fact that this is a black and red themed build and yet has a blue and silver GPU annoys me so much :D

Rainbow6Sheep 2 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

It's a parametric filter

ThinkWithPortals 2 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

I know that.

Rainbow6Sheep 2 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

... then what's the problem?

ThinkWithPortals 2 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

There isn't one?

crashitgood 1 point 5 months ago

i think that smiley indicates sarcasm

Awesomlego -1 points 5 months ago

Decent build. but a $100 mobo, off-brand AIO, and $70 case, definitely not worthy to call enthusiast

ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't judge a motherboard by price alone. That's not going to tell you a lot. The same goes for cases.

Also, I wouldn't judge the cooler on brand alone, as the cooler actually goes toe to toe with other high end AIOs.

Awesomlego 3 points 5 months ago

Yes, but in a build with a 1080, you would probably go with something like an Asus Maximus VIII Hero or MSI Gaming M7, so you can get the features that would entail with that price point.

I didn't mean it like that. I know there are amazing $70 cases, like the Phanteks P400, but this seems like a weird case for such a build. There are just better options for the same price.

I know that is is a decent cooler, but for $5-$10 more, you could get an H100i V2, which would match more systems color schemes, more reliable, and from a better known brand.

No offense to you in any of these comments, as I respect your opinion as a member of the staff and PC enthusiast.

ThoughtA staff submitter 4 points 5 months ago

I will never take offense at constructive criticism of a build guide. You're not doing anything wrong by disagreeing. In fact, thank you for it.

Which features in those more expensive motherboards do you think make them worth purchasing in a higher end build?

Awesomlego 5 points 5 months ago

I personally think that they have better aesthetics, especially the Hero with its RGB lighting which would complement the Zotac 1080's lighting. Also, again, mainly with the Hero, you get better audio quality with Asus's praised Supreme FX, but also with the ALC1150. You get a better set of I/O ports with a higher end motherboard, which could be helpful if you have a large gaming/editing setup and lots of peripherals connected. Again, with the Hero, you get a dedicated pump header which is a nice feature to have. You also get Asus's 5-Way optimization for overclocking. If you decided to get an RGB strip form CableMod, you can connect it to the Asus RGB header, which is just a nice addition.

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 5 months ago

I like it!

barishsarac 0 points 4 months ago

Agree with Awesomlego.

I do think we need to find ways to cut spending especially parts of high quality and especially brand ones are super expensive but those last longer and perform better for longer period of time based on my 8 year computer repair experience.

iam3spooky3you -1 points 5 months ago

the i5 with the 1080 will have a bottle necking problem wont it?

Scatted 4 points 5 months ago

Why would an i5 ever bottleneck anything? (can't speak for the future)

ntitco1 1 point 4 months ago

There's a reason for i7's existence man. But yeah, for gaming only you can hardly bottleneck a 6600K.

redstonelink 7 points 4 months ago

The reason for i7's existence is basically just content creation

526christian 2 points 5 months ago

Yes and no. It depends on the game, the graphics settings, the resolution, and from moment to moment. The bottleneck can switch between the 1080 and the 6600K depending on those factors. And when/if the 6600K is ever a bottleneck, you can alleviate it by overclocking the 6600K (most get to 4.5GHz fine) and/or by getting faster RAM (DDR4-3000 doesn't cost a lot more and can help framerates by up to 17% when CPU bound over 2133, although not every game benefits that much).

CheezyDoughnut 1 point 5 months ago

Is there a different CPU you would recommend to prevent bottleneck? I am not too savvy with this stuff and just want to make sure I am getting the best bang for my buck.

MoistGoat 1 Build 4 points 5 months ago

I'm using the same CPU with a GTX 1080 FTW and haven't run into any issues with any type of bottleneck. Also, the CPU is able to OC a little bit without upping the voltage (I'm still running mine stock) so there is a little extra performance you can get with minimal tweaking. Though, like i said, I haven't had any bottleneck issues yet.

CheezyDoughnut 1 point 5 months ago

Thanks for the help!

sterfri99 1 point 4 months ago

You MIGHT bottleneck the i5 if you're running SLI'd TITAN XP's and playing a game at 4k max settings. Otherwise, it will be fine for any game you can throw at it at any settings.

dashrsp -2 points 4 months ago

Seagate drives have a very high failure rate. Generally, one can find a HGST drive for a similar price.

SuperGojira2001 3 Builds 1 point 4 months ago

Any HDD from any company can fail at any time, even WD and Seagate HDD’s.

dashrsp 1 point 4 months ago

Obviously. It's a factor of probability.

Xorex64 1 point 4 months ago

The differences between brands on The probablity of failure within a given time is very small.

dashrsp 0 points 4 months ago

Hmm. I've seen a few tests that show differences of 20%.

Xorex64 1 point 4 months ago

From what source? What method did they use? Note that failure rates are not static, like "this will fail and this will not". They need to be within a tiven time like "this has a n% chance of failing within 7 month and that has a g% chance of failing within 7 months" because all drives fail. Its a matter of when.

You should back up your drives anyways.

OMNI-X -7 points 5 months ago

it's no Enthusiast at all.....

Rainbow6Sheep 2 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

A 6600k and a 1080 isn't enthusiast?

Xorex64 2 points 4 months ago

Enthusiast is subjective

montiago 1 Build -4 points 5 months ago

Enthusiast would have at least an X99 mobo with a 2011-E chipset and a Titan or 2. And it would be watercooled

ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 5 months ago

It's a pretty subjective and arbitrary term, to be honest. Your opinion is no less valid than anyone else's regarding that, but it's not any more "correct" either.

OMNI-X -5 points 5 months ago

your psu is gold certified and it's about 90% efficiency, it's better to have a larger wattage psu. otherwise it's gonna be loud and annoying when playing games. also, when you have a 1080 in the build, you should choose a tier 1 psu to make sure it will not run on problems :)

ThoughtA staff submitter 4 points 5 months ago

All of the PSUs are very highly reviewed. 80+ efficiency certification is not much of a metric to use for quality. I guarantee the video card will be exceptionally louder than the PSU when you're playing games.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 5 months ago

I'm not talking about efficiency ratings. I'm talking about review ratings for quality from professional reviewers with the expertise and equipment to test PSUs. That's why I made sure to say "reviewed," rather than "rated."

I'm not sure what you are agreeing with regarding noise, since I said the opposite (for convenience, quoted below):

I guarantee the video card will be exceptionally louder than the PSU when you're playing games.

Anyway, "that 550W" is actually very highly rated.

Review 1
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Review 4
Review 5
Review 6

That's just the first PSU. Every PSU in the list is high quality and well-reviewed.

The 650W G2 is in the parametric selection. Every PSU in that selection is of a high enough quality that saving some money and adding coverage for availability across multiple regions is more worthwhile.

80-wattHamster 1 Build 2 points 5 months ago

Every PSU on the parametric list is a quality unit, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. 550W is 550W, whether it's Gold, Bronze, White, Platinum or Titanium. The 100W of headroom on this build is plenty. My machine doesn't pull much less than 450W on its 550W supply, and you hear the GPU long before the PSU.

vagabond139 5 Builds 1 point 5 months ago

The tier list is a huge joke....

Skolei-Meister 0 points 5 months ago

Well if the gpu and cpu can be overclocked i would say that it is on an enthusiast level... THis build can run games at 4k resolution so if you don't think this is enthusiast then what is? quad-sli titan x? Come one we're not all millionares here

Sid10 -8 points 5 months ago

It's a great build, but it's not 100% Enthusiast.

ThoughtA staff submitter 6 points 5 months ago

It's a pretty subjective and arbitrary term, to be honest. Your opinion is no less valid than anyone else's regarding that, but it's not any more "correct" either.

Sid10 -6 points 5 months ago

In the PC building community, an Enthusiast build is a build that does not take budget into account. An Enthusiast build shoots for the best hardware possible, even if it's extremely overkill. Your build is great, and it is enthusiast, but there are much better hardware combinations, for a true enthusiast build.

Calerid -9 points 4 months ago

Sorry but the second I see Seagate and Zotac I cannot call this enthusiast. This is more of a high tier budget oriented build.

I don't mean to degrade the PC build but these parts are not really enthusiast.

Angry_Plzen 3 points 4 months ago

so the company that makes some of the largest coolers on the market, one of the few companies that sells a gpu with a waterblock preapplied is not enthusiast? then what is? if the zotac 1080 amp! isn't enthusiast then honestly, what constitutes the threshold?

SuperGojira2001 3 Builds 2 points 4 months ago

Seagate and Zotac products are fine.

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manirelli staff 7 Builds 1 point 3 months ago

Keep it polite or don't comment on this site.

Calerid 1 point 1 month ago

What did I say that was not polite?

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adios_makes_nuggets 1 point 2 months ago

Not unlocked though.

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WirelessCables 1 Build 2 points 3 months ago

the 1080 is bottle necked by anything under a 6700k.

There's no bottleneck there. For gaming, an i5 will do well with a 1080, and a 1070. Source?

Monitor 1 Build 2 points 3 months ago

You. Have no idea what bottlenecking really is... Please research before you say stuff like that.

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adios_makes_nuggets 0 points 2 months ago

It's when a certain component of a computer cannot be utilized to its full potential due to an another component being too "weak" to handle it. (Most commonly it's a CPU vs GPU scenario)

A good example would be an i3 6100 paired with a Titan XP, the i3 bottlenecks the Titan greatly due to it not being able to "handle" its actual full potential, so the Titan would just hover around a low usage to match what the i3 can handle. (Which might be around 55%-ish)

ten8yp 2 Builds 2 points 2 months ago

very close Adios- components do not bottleneck other components. Certain and specific components of an overall build are bottlenecked by programs and tasks which makes other components not able to utilize their maximum effectiveness. I think that's what you were trying to say.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 1 point 4 months ago

Stop spamming.

ahmoody313 1 point 4 months ago

i didnt spam...

ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 4 months ago

A massive ASCII post is definitely spam. Whatever you choose to call it, don't do it again.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 5 points 5 months ago

This is a parametric filter for the best-priced GTX 1080. There's a pretty decent amount to be said for narrowing down the video card based on color, but considering that Guides cast a very wide net in terms of budget, location, and preferences, doing so would unacceptably restrict selection in terms of pricing and availability.

You're more than welcome to disagree, but as it stands, we feel that when it comes to the video card in the guides, we'd rather keep it open.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 5 months ago

I didn't change anything. It's a parametric filter. It dynamically selects the best-priced component that still fits the selected parameters.

It's just that this build is obviously going for a color scheme and the GPU completely breaks it. What's $25 at this budget?

I acknowledged your argument, said it's a valid point, and gave our reasoning for taking a different path. It seems you completely ignored the comment saying that, so you may wish to read it again.

As for the blower, it may be a good idea for us to filter out blower-style cards for builds where it's appropriate (not as budget-constrained and with a high airflow case), like this one.

Xorex64 1 point 4 months ago

Would it make any differece? isnt the backplate covered up or out of view most of the time?

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Xorex64 1 point 4 months ago

Sorry, i thought you meant the part that faces the back of the case.

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ThoughtA staff submitter 2 points 4 months ago

Please keep feedback polite and constructive.

Vollmer 1 point 3 months ago

Very happy to have bought the build. Components changed and I have components not on the video. Also the connection of the hard drive is not on the video. Manufacturer documentation is pretty sketchy and MSI has taken down their installation videos.

Any suggestions here? This is my fourth question to the forum. None acknowledged.

80-wattHamster 1 Build 1 point 2 months ago

What are your questions (I realize I'm time traveling a bit here; just ran across your post)?

i213 1 point 3 months ago

Can I repurpose my Seagate 1Tb passport for this build instead of buying something new?

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Note: Wattages are estimates only. Actual power draw may differ from listed values.
Component Estimated Wattage
Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor 11W - 91W
Deepcool CAPTAIN 240 EX 153.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler 10W - 15W
MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard 17W - 70W
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory 11W - 11W
Intel 600p Series 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive 2W - 10W
Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 4W - 20W
Asus GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card 45W - 180W
Total: 100W - 397W