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is it worth upgrading from 2200g to 1700?

Potatogamer1230

4 months ago

i got my build working not to long ago and I started up a youtube channel with it. I have a ryzen 3 2200g and it takes a pretty long time to render my videos on it and it doesn't play certain CPU intensive games very well even when overclocked. so is it worth it to upgrade to the 1700 with an aftermarket cooler or wait for the release of zen 2 before I buy anything?

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  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

If games are having problems on an OCed 2200G processor, then most probably you need more cores for these games in question.

So you are lacking cores instead of frequency.

And on that matter, a overclocked Ryzen 1700 with an appropriate cooler solution, would do a great job.

However if you own that board (Asus PRIME B450M-A) it would be a challenge to OC properly an 16 thread processor.

...and it doesn't play certain CPU intensive games very well.

You should definitely monitor your CPU usage on these particular games though.

If usage is low, you may need a better GPU than the RX 570 that you already have.

So you should at first pinpoint what bottlenecks your RIG. the CPU or the GPU, before you attempt to make an upgrade. :)

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

what board would you recommend for overclocking on the 1700? I should add that i have a micro atx case so I cant go over that size.

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type Item Price
CPU AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor $159.65 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler Scythe - Mugen 5 Rev. B 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler $47.99
Motherboard ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $76.31 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory Purchased For $0.00
Storage Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive Purchased For $0.00
Video Card Gigabyte - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card Purchased For $0.00
Case Thermaltake - Versa H17 MicroATX Mini Tower Case Purchased For $0.00
Power Supply EVGA - 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply Purchased For $0.00
Case Fan be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 PWM 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan $12.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan be quiet! - Pure Wings 2 140 PWM 61.2 CFM 140mm Fan $12.99 @ SuperBiiz
Monitor Acer - SB220Q bi 21.5" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor Purchased For $0.00
Keyboard Corsair - K55 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard Purchased For $0.00
Mouse Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse Purchased For $0.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $309.93
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-10 10:28 EDT-0400

Do a moderate OC at 3.7 or 3.8GHz (max), and install 2 additional front intake fans.

Also the cooler will barely fit inside that small Case.

...or wait for the release of zen 2 before I buy anything?

That would be also something to consider, but that's up to you.

At least wait until 23 April.

Reports suggest that AMD will hold a Partners Summit event on 23 April, where the company will likely reveal new 7-nanometre components including the AMD Navi GPU and AMD Ryzen 3000 CPU.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

ok so I think I'll wait until the 23 and if nothings announced I'll get a ryzen 5 1600 because apparently that works better with my current motherboard. when I get home I can tell you if I see a bottleneck on the games.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

...when I get home I can tell you if I see a bottleneck on the games.

OK!

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

i never noticed anything strange. my cpu usage was ranging from 20-40 percent and my gpu was ranging from 1-10 percent.

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

It has already been revealed. The 3300G will be a 6 core 12 thread, MSRP of $130, base clock 4.2GHz, Boost Block 5.1GHz. Here is the Link to the article: http://www.ClickIfYouBelieveMe.com

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

The link doesn't work.

Leaked specs should be below. (https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-ryzen-3rd-generation)

Ryzen 9 3850X: 16-cores, 32-threads, clocked at 4.3GHz to 5.1GHz
Ryzen 9 3800X: 16-cores, 32-threads, clocked at 3.9GHz to 4.7GHz
Ryzen 7 3700X: 12-cores, 24-threads, clocked at 4.2GHz to 5.0GHz
Ryzen 7 3700: 12-cores, 24-threads, clocked at 3.8GHz to 4.6GHz
Ryzen 5 3600X: 8-cores, 16-threads, clocked at 4.0GHz to 4.8GHz
Ryzen 5 3600G: 8-cores, 16-threads, 12 GPU cores, clocked at 3.2GHz to 4.0GHz
Ryzen 5 3600: 8-cores, 16-threads, clocked at 3.6GHz to 4.4GHz
Ryzen 3 3300X: 6-cores,12 -threads, clocked at 3.5GHz to 4.3GHz
*Ryzen 3 3300G: 8-core, 12-thread, 12 GPU cores, clocked at 3.2GHz to 4.0GHz
Ryzen 3 3300: 6-cores, 12-threads, clocked at 3.2GHz to 4.0GHz
  • *And i have seen lower core and boost speeds for the 3300G APU. (3GHz/3.8GHz)
  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I really hope the leaked specs are true, but some of those clock speeds seem high. Wondering if the improvements moving to 7nm really do allow that much an improvement on their clock speeds?

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I just wanted to note that when monitoring CPU usage while playing that you want to look at each core separately. if you're pegging 1 core, then adding more cores won't help. If you're pegging all the cores, then most likely that game will use a few more cores efficiently.

If you only look at overall cpu usage then it can be deceptively low while still maxing out on a core. (looking at you League of Legends on my 8700k. LOL)

  • 4 months ago
  • 1 point

I just wanted to note that when monitoring CPU usage while playing that you want to look at each core separately.

Yes, i think with MSI Afterburner you can do that. :)

  • 4 months ago
  • 2 points

So the question is whether multithreading and more cores will make a difference, and for rendering videos and CPU intensive games, probably.

For reference: Cinebench 20 scores by processor/RAM

2200G stock gets 350 single-core Cinebench 20. 1700 slight o/c gets 310s. 1700 much more overclockable, can reach 350 single core with big o/c, but your board may not allow it with 8 cores / 16 threads due to the VRMs (heating issues).

But consider the 1600 as well. The SC performance is equal to or better than 1700, and it's very overclockable, more likely to o/c on your mobo, and it's $79.99 at MicroCenter.

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