Description

This system started out as an AMD Ryzen 2000-based build, with an R3 2200G doing CPU duty on an ASRock AB350M Pro4 board.

But, some species of gremlin infested that build, causing freezes and black screens in BIOS, along with some pretty pretty artefacting, and preventing a Windows install by throwing an impressive variety of error codes.

After trying for a while to identify and solve the problem, I flat-out gave up and jumped ship mid-build, over to Intel. An i3-8100 replaced the 2200G, on an Asus H310 board, and it was smooth sailing all the way.

I've done a fuller write-up over on my Sensible Systems Facebook page. Please feel free to let me know what you think :-)

Comments

  • 9 months ago
  • 4 points

It looks like the only thing that was wrong with the AMD system was bad RAM. I've gotten many of those same issues from an unstable stick of RAM. My problem went away (for the most part) by bumping up my voltage.

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Agreed, RAM was one likely culprit. Would have liked to have sorted it out (and got to play around with the 2200G) but working on the clock, I went for the nuclear option and just started from scratch with different parts!

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Nice PFP, dude.

  • 9 months ago
  • 3 points

Unlucky, i done something similar, although i stayed with ryzen, i built my first system, which was a r5 1400, rx470, 16gb corsair lpx [2x8] on a gigabyte b350 board, and for a month straight i couldnt get it to post, eventually buying a ryzen 7, which didnt do the trick, then i bought my last product before i told myself that i was going to have to give up, which should have been my first thing to change really, a new stick of 8gb ram, cant even remember the name of it, but after trying it with the new ram it booted, turns out the ram was incompatible out of the box, due to some bios revision, so i updated the bios and reinserted the corsair lpx, and i was up and running, eventually i gave the other components to my nephew [ a motherboard, ryzen 5 1400, and the 8gb stick i used to update the bios]

  • 9 months ago
  • 3 points

Ah, impressive persistence there! Glad you got it sorted in the end. Ryzen and RAM has been a bit of a rough ride, much better now but still a little fiddly. Lucky nephew, too :-)

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Wow... all those errors you had! I feel for you though I suppose I'll find out myself if I ever run into one of those errors when I build an AMD Ryzen computer sometime this year. Glad the Coffee Lake i3-8100 worked out better for you. I had no issues either when I built with the i3-8100 for my workplace though GIGABYTE's F1 BIOS had a missing Boot Order and Boot Overdrive until later on I updated the BIOS to F3 which fixed that.

Back to the main point, great work with this build! Here is my one and support to you.

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

Thanks! Best with your upcoming Ryzen build. I've done plenty with no hassle, and certainly have nothing against AMD in general. Do you know which processor you'll be using for that build? I'm keen to see how the R3 2300X and R5 2500X look... Can't be that far away now!

  • 9 months ago
  • 2 points

No worries. Troubleshooting can occur at anytime and hitting a wall is unfortunate. And I wish but it's a Ryzen 3 2200G. Again, nice work with this build and thanks for sharing!

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I built a Ryzen 5 machine myself, and I’ve never had any problems so far. If I were you, I would have sent back the parts for new ones and tryed my luck again, but if you wanna go Intel, I won’t stop you.

  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

I was really keen to have a play with the R3 2200G, and on less of a deadline (building for someone else) I'd have done as you mentioned and got replacements for the original AMD parts. You're rocking the R5 1500X? Nice :-)

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

how do you like the mobo? im looking to make a budget i3 build mainly for CSGO. the price tag on that one is very appealing

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

I like it, especially at the price, like you say.

Having written it, I now think this reply needs a TL;DR, so: good budget board for a gaming PC!

It is a very basic board in terms of connectivity - only four SATA ports, no m.2 slot, and just one fan header - but it will let you do an SSD+HDD storage setup and connect a case fan (or two with a $1 Y-cable), so as long as that is enough, that's OK.

Layout is user-friendly, and it even looks alright, since the PCB isn't that cockroach-shell brown of some budget boards and the grey accents give it a little bit of visual interest.

The biggest "issue" with this board, insofar as there is one, concerns the VRM design and more specifically, potential CPU upgrade paths.

The VRM is a minimal 3+1 phase with no heatsinks.

Testing by Hardware Unboxed shows an i7-8700 under heavy load (Blender) can overwhelm even the slightly beefier VRM on the MSI B360 Pro-VD, leading to thermal throttling and lowered performance, meaning the weaker VRM on this board has no hope of handling it.

How much of a big deal is that?

Well, it means that if you want to throw CPU-intensive workloads at your system, then your upgrade path is really just the i5-8400 (or the marginally faster -8500 or -8600), since paying more for an i7 part that will just overheat the VRMs then throttle itself doesn't make much sense in terms of value, performance, or component longevity.

Being limited to a 6C/6T Coffee Lake i5 is not the worst thing in the world, though, and if you are only interested in gaming, then even popping in an i7-8700 wouldn't be a huge deal, since that task won't stress the CPU (and consequently the board's VRMs) to anywhere near the same extent as Blender (or other similar workloads).

Whew, going back to add a TL;DR at the top of this reply now ;-)

  • 8 months ago
  • 1 point

thanks for the response! im planning on throwing the same cpu into a build and upgrading to an i7 later on. ill probably go ahead and get something a little more future proof for when that comes. thank you!

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  • 9 months ago
  • 1 point

Thank you my friend, always appreciate your feedback and support :-) I thought my photos might have got a bit better since upgrading from a potato phone to something a little nicer, so glad they're looking OK!