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Built this for gaming a few months ago, was just too lazy to post this. But I'm running out of games in my Steam library so I figured I might as well.

Put it all together- booted up just fine. I'm very pleased with the performance though I wish I could have waited for the Radeon R9 series as I would have been able to get an R9 290 (non-x) for the same price. But it's not a big deal, this thing is a beast anyway.

Very rarely do I hear coil whine, and even when I do it's very quiet coil whine.

The cords are a lot less messy now, I would take a new photo but the computer is kind of in a difficult position under my desk, will update next time I re-paste my CPU.

The only problem I had really was that the GPU's performance would decrease after using a game/application for a few minutes. Turns out it was the card's TDP restriction kicking in. Turning the power slider in Catalyst to +20% fixed this, and I recommend anyone with an AMD card do this as well so long as their PSU can handle it even if they're not overclocking.

CPU is @4Ghz with MSI's OC Genie, perhaps one day I'll properly configure the overclock. Over Christmas break maybe?

Overall very satisfied, hoping to get a better PSU and a R9 280x Windforce for Crossfire in the future as well as one of those nifty Noctua coolers for better and cooler CPU overclocks.

Comments

  • 73 months ago
  • 26 points

Your title is extremely descriptive, good job.

  • 73 months ago
  • 5 points

thank

  • 73 months ago
  • 4 points

You're welc

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  • 73 months ago
  • 18 points

I would (personally) have downgraded to a Celeron and gotten 32gb ram. Also, I would have gotten a 1500 watt supply and a 7770 (than a 7970 and a 600w).

Moreover, a processor like that doesn't require a heat sink, the cold weather will be just fine.

Ha, just kidding. This is very good. Very balanced :) +1

  • 73 months ago
  • 6 points

Can you spell b-o-t-t-l-e-n-e-ck?

  • 73 months ago
  • 7 points

Yeah but if I want to look what it means online I'd need at least another 64GB Ram.

  • 73 months ago
  • 8 points

you can just download some more ram and a cpu cooler. I did it, it works really well. I went from 4gbs to 16gbs. The CPU cooler came with a free giraffe but it hasn't come yet.

  • 73 months ago
  • 4 points

Thanks for the tip! I downloaded another case and it fits well in my cloud storage!

  • 73 months ago
  • 0 points

no

  • 73 months ago
  • 2 points

It's really nice. But why do you have 16 gigs of ram?

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

I have 16 because more games are starting to use 64 bit and such and I as I'm not really gonna upgrade for awhile aside from maybe a new GPU for XFire I wanted to make sure I could utilize it. But yeah, at this immediate time 8gb is enough.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly, the biggest reason to get more than 8 gigs is the price if you can get a deal. However, if you want to screen capture or stream it can come in handy. Additionally, if you play mod heavy games its particularly useful imo. Other than that its not really necessary unless its preemptive to future upgrades.

  • 73 months ago
  • 2 points

Great job and and thanks a lot for the heads up on the TDP restriction, I just built my pc with a 7970 too

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks and yeah it was kinda odd, as a test I literally found an unchanging scene in a game and left it there for 20 minutes, it went for 80 fps to 70 to 65, of course very playable framerates still but that shouldn't be happening, it just seems that after a few minutes of running this card starts to hit the TDP wall. Glad it was just that limiting performance and not a faulty card :)

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Awesome build, everything is well balanced +1

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Thanks!

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Good job overall, though did you really pay that much for the 7970? They've had them on deals for several months before the R9 series came out. Also, the cabling could use some work for aesthetic purposes, but it looks like all the cables are out of the way of the airflow. Enjoy the new PC, and I'm jealous of those components!

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Yep, I think I payed around 370 for this card. I couldn't order, I had to buy from Microcenter so yeah. As for the cables I've re-worked them a few times and I think it's pretty clean now, I'll probably take a picture sometime when I'm cleaning dust out and re-pasting the CPU.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

how reliable is the gpu? I have a hd 7970 from xfx and It lasted for less than an hour.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

It's very reliable though XFX is a good brand too, you probably just got unlucky

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

I'm going to get a r9 290

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Very nice, I used to have that PSU and it served me well. Also, that GFX, love me a 7970, especially anything XFX.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Running out of games in your Steam library? Is that a thing that happens?

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

I play games a lot :)

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

The CoolerMaster case kinda remindes me my case. They look pretty much the same from the inside, though my PSU is top mounted so it looks a little bit different.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Does everything fit well in the case? I am planning on getting these parts except with a GTX 770.

  • 71 months ago
  • 1 point

Sorry for really late replay. Yeah, it fits alright in the case and if the video card needs a little more room you can remove the extra drive cage.

  • 54 months ago
  • 1 point

would this work with an ausus essentio series case?

  • 26 months ago
  • 1 point

May have to join the PC master race soon

  • 73 months ago
  • -1 points

I would have personally got a slightly cheaper i5 and less (and slower) RAM so you could squeeze in an SSD for boot. Same with the motherboard unless you're really into the extras. Plenty of articles out there on how many extra FPS you get for your $$$ would back me on that. However if you're doing any video editing at all then I take that back.

Other than that very well balanced. Significantly better than other rigs on here that are very unbalanced but get upvoted because the components sound nice.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Honestly, I have a SSD and I really don't see much performance boost from the SSD, and most certainly not more performance than I would see if I used that same amount of money (assuming a decent sized SSD at 120gb or so) to get a better graphics cards.

Now that last statement might not be true at all price points.

  • 73 months ago
  • 0 points

In terms of FPS? Sure, spending extra money on the graphics card will always make more difference than getting an SSD. However I didn't say to get a cheaper graphics card and I didn't say the SSD would improve gaming performance.

I said that the extra money spent on CPU/RAM/MoBo here probably doesn't help the OP much in terms of gaming performance. That that money would have been better spent on an SSD "for boot". I think you're pretty much alone on the "SSDs aren't a big deal" train.

As for that last statement I intended it as a compliment. I guarantee you that if the OP had a larger PSU, a i7 4770K, an 800W PSU and awesome watercooling that would have got more praise even though it is entirely unnecessary. Alternatively if the OP had gone more budget and matched a 650Ti with an i5 4440 and a 450W PSU the downvotes would be out. It's nice to see a rig that's fairly well balanced is all I was saying.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

"In terms of FPS? Sure, spending extra money on the graphics card will always make more difference than getting an SSD. However I didn't say to get a cheaper graphics card and I didn't say the SSD would improve gaming performance." The OP built this computer for gaming. And also this statement contradicts what you said in your previous post: "Plenty of articles out there on how many extra FPS you get for your $$$ would back me on that."

"I said that the extra money spent on CPU/RAM/MoBo here probably doesn't help the OP much in terms of gaming performance." I agree that maybe some money was wasted on the Mobo and RAM but the CPU was not a waste, it's the only "K" model i5 and there is not alternative.

"that money would have been better spent on an SSD "for boot"." Or he could have used that same amount of money and got a better graphics card and see better performance in games, because this is a gaming build afterall.

"I think you're pretty much alone on the "SSDs aren't a big deal"train." I'm not saying SSDs aren't a big deal and I never did but this being a gaming computer, he could have more performance out of a better graphics card. If I thought SSDs weren't a big deal I probably wouldn't have one.

"As for that last statement I intended it as a compliment. I guarantee you that if the OP had a larger PSU, a i7 4770K, an 800W PSU and awesome watercooling that would have got more praise even though it is entirely unnecessary. Alternatively if the OP had gone more budget and matched a 650Ti with an i5 4440 and a 450W PSU the downvotes would be out. It's nice to see a rig that's fairly well balanced is all I was saying."

Sorry, when I wrote that sentence it made perfect sense to me but now that I reread it I see the confusion. I was talking about my last statement not yours.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

Maybe my wording was a bit unclear but I was talking about the extra $$$/fps that you get for the RAM and CPU going to what's here above something lower. I didn't intend to suggest that SSDs improve FPS because they don't.

There's an excellent anandtech article where they did benchmarks on how various CPUs impact on gaming performance. With AMD and Nvidia, multi and single GPU configs with Metro 2033, Civ5, Dirt 3 and Sleeping Dogs. Across all of them with single GPU configs (coincidentally a 7970) there was only a 1-3 FPS difference between the i5 4430 and the i7 4960x and not necessarily in the order you'd expect. In some cases (Sleeping Dogs in particular) even i3s were in the mix.

In the OP's defence in that anandtech article the 4670k did pull ahead of slightly lower i5s in multi-GPU configs so it is a better chip that might last longer. Things might change now that the new consoles are out but as of now it's hard to justify. The money's better spent on other areas.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

I don't think you realize that it doesn't matter what the gaming performance is like with the i5 at stock, it's the only overclockable i5 and therefore is the only choice for someone looking to overclock.

This maybe a gaming build but If someone wants a feature in their gaming build that is only available in a higher cost processor, then you can't argue with that.

  • 73 months ago
  • 1 point

In retrospect, I probably would have been just fine with 8GB of RAM but I'm a bit of a perfectionist, I wanted to have 16 in case and 64bit game came out and could actually use it. As for the 1600mhz I actually have an excuse for that, BF4 actually benefits from faster RAM unlike every other game ever :P I wanted to overclock a little, that's why I got the 4670k and the MSI z87 G45. I actually got like $40 off the motherboard since I purchased the CPU with it so it was not a bad deal. And SSDs are really, really nice I just feel their capacities are still too low in relation to their price to justify them.

  • 73 months ago
  • 0 points

On the RAM speed: http://youtu.be/dWgzA2C61z4

but hey, if you're happy with it and want the extra RAM plus the fun of over-clocking then more power to you. It's a pretty nice build overall and it should serve you well. :)