Description

Small tower budget gaming PC for little brother. Some parts don't have good cost-to-performance ratio, but it's my budget anyway. The gamer should replace the parts he wanted to be more powerful on his own.

CPU

9th iteration of Intel iProcessor leaped much ahead, thanks to good Ryzen. Still couldn't beat its competitor except for gaming and some software where optimizations were done only on Intel side. Imagine if developers had optimized their games for Ryzen, even for this 9100F which is equivalent to i5 from 2 generations ago wouldn't stand a chance.

Motherboard

The cheapest board I could find that's within Gigabyte/MSI as I wanted to see how the companies do with their board.

Someone on the internet said about Gigabyte having awful driver support and I kinda agree with them. The USB3.0 driver doesn't work. There's power being transmitted and could be used to power on USB devices, but it doesn't recognize what they were.

Gonna stay away from Gigabyte board for a while. A lot reviewers, from what I heard, also got some issues with boards from the company. They ought to revamp the reliability of their board before I take another chance with them.

RAM

Fill all the slots! 8GB is more than enough.

GPU

Could get an RX570 for much butter cost-perf ratio. This one was a mistake and doesn't seem enough if the user wanted to play some AAA titles. But he should replace it himself, this one component is the most expensive for the purpose IMO.

Case

Perforations on the front, compact, reusable PCI slot cover. Good case for the price.

PSU

450W is more than enough. This one too the user should replace on his own if he needs more power, which he actually shouldn't though. Even 450 is enough to power a 1070Ti, so it should last for the rest of its life.

Storage

It is Apacer 240GB SSD and isn't listed on PPP. Bought for USD30. Not extreme fast as those from brandy counterpart, but much faster than spinning rust. Booting took less than 15 secs and no complain about the performance.

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Comments

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

It's gaming, not gayming. Instead of bottom feeding for your brother, make a deal where you get decent equipment instead of wasting money on parts he should replace on his own. Did you show him how to build a computer? You are being cheap as a brother. I replaced the tires on my sisters car, I didn't get the worst tires I could possibly find, I got good ones, and made a deal where she could pay me back, even if it was gradual.

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

Less harsh.... not everyone speaks English as their primary language.
That aside, it is almost never economical in money or time to build a pc with the express purpose of replacing parts en masse. Instead of spending $200 on a good CPU now you spend $100 then maybe when the better CPU price drops you spend another $150. Now you've shelled out $250 and had to tear apart the PC to install it and risk damage as you reassemble. https://www.amazon.com/TUF-B365M-PLUS-Wi-Fi-LGA1151-Motherboard/dp/B07WSGQF3G would be more appropriate for 9th gen. Just an extra $30 and has better components and built in WiFi 802.11ac and M.2 capability.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/JasonBH/saved/#view=LysLP6 ~$760

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

i5 for double the price of i3 is budget too, but for AAA titles and some a little demanding task. For mid-end rig, it would be the best. But when the user doesn't and isn't even sure if he would need the extra power, it would be a waste. I've seen people with this setup even playing intensive games, albeit low settings, without issue, so I'm comfortable going with my choice.

Everyday I'm with him and haven't heard the noise of intel fan spinning hard, which proves how accommodating the 9th i3 is for him.

TUF B365M Wi-Fi is USD143 at my place. Not budget enough for my specification and m.2 isn't required.

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

I'd like to teach him, but he didn't have the time nor intention to learn PC building and insisted on using his bogged down laptop. Yeah, I'm cheap for not getting the best and don't want to give him an overpowered rig for his casual gaming and homework. By the time he wanted to upgrade and replace something, I'll tell him to do it himself, forcing him to learn bit by bit, that should help him down the road.

Fixed the typo.

Edit: BTW, if you thought I was using his money for just good enough parts, that's a mistake. The expenses were all on me, so it's like my investment in the hope for him to pique an interest in custom PC.

  • 13 days ago
  • 1 point

Nice of you to pay out of your own pocket for this. There will always be those who find fault in anything one does, so don't listen to them. What kind of storage? Throw an nvme boot drive in there and maybe another 8gb of memory over time and your little brother will be thrilled. Have to start somewhere bud, and hopefully you've given him a fun and interesting hobby for life!

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Thats my point about econimical for modifying later. Can't increase/add ram. Only has 2 slots, so 16gb reqires a whole new set. For a few dollars more, instead of 8gb 2666 18 could have 16gb 3000 15. No NvME. Builder noted m.2 isnt a req. Which is irrelevant, as the H310 board doesn't have it as an option. So unless you buy an add on card for it. Maybe a decent SATA SSD.

And yes it is nice to build something for someone else. But by the same token, if it is for someone else, that they should be expected, learn to PC build and modify it later is unkind. I stand by, if it for someone else, include them in the build, discuss what they can do and what options are available. Yes they should also contribute $$. If they show a complete lack if desire to participate, expecting them later to become a PC builder is unlikely. Telling him later he's on his own, do it himself is a bit mean spirited.

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Saturating the dual channel is much more beneficial for performance and like I said, 8GB is more than enough, unless you're a graphics designer, content creator, or enthusiast.

The guy is going for IT programme in his university, beginning around Autumn this year. He's very similar to me that his behaviour always reminds me how I was back then when I was his age, showing lack of interest toward everything else --including PC specs and its true capability--, except for things he had on him. Getting involved in IT has higher chance of him knowing how vast the options in what kind of PC he'd like to have in the future, so him becoming a PC builder doesn't seem so unlikely. He might be ignorant of these stuff for now, but when he's exposed more to software and hardware later, the hint of custom-build rig is already in his head.

And this wouldn't be in a matter of few months. Who knows, perhaps Zen3 would surpassed Intel by huge margin or Intel comes up with something unbelievable. Or perhaps it's the year of Zen4 or probably it'd be a whole new architecture from both AMD and Intel. When the time comes, he'd certainly need a new board. Heck, he might even replace the whole thing.

So I don't think it's beneficial to give, and tell him that he got, m.2 slot which he has to fill before he upgrades the board or I'd waste money on that, when he doesn't even care whether it's Sata or m.2 as long as it works.

The matter if he would get a pre-built or building his own is dependent on him and I don't really mind if he'd choose the former, but at least I've shown him it's easily doable. He knew it's completely doable and had confidence he could also do it if he wanted, as he took a peek during the building process.

  • 12 days ago
  • 1 point

Thank you for the encouragement.

Forgot about the storage. Added it to the description. It's 240GB budget SSD and fast enough as typical SSD. NVMe would be a waste for boot drive, so that's out of question. He's not using many apps nor keeping a lot of files anyway, and more importantly, he's happy with the performance, so there's no more reason for me to fiddle around with the machine anymore.